WWF Summerslam Results

[ugenn]

Don't you know Orton's family background? His father is the legendary cowboy Bob Orton. And that is the reason for his faster than normal rise to stardom.

[Wizard]

Which is possibly the only reason why he's up at the main eventers.

[The TeamPlayer]

Orton is one of my favorite wrestlers. My ONLY objection to him gaining the title as fast as he did is that he did not go through a good face period.

 

I feel a wrestler should prove he can play both roles well BEFORE gaining the title.

But if he is going to turn face then maybe it will not be too bad. I am sure he could pull it off.

 

And what is all this talk about too many gimmicks nowdays? o_O I guess everyone that is thinking back to the old days forgets Taker dying a few times. Kane shooting Lightning. People getting kidnapped, Taker vs Taker, Birdman, Goldust stories, etc...

 

Guys...everyone knows that Macho Man Randy Savage is a has-been. He would get his candy ass kicked by the Rock and Orton.

I might agree about the Macho Man from the pics shown. But you must not remember the Macho Man when he returned to WCW with Sid and Gorgous George. That Macho would mess Orton up! OOOOHHH YEAH!

 

And the Kane gimmick is not odd. Reminds me of the time Brian Pillman won Goldust's wife from him. I bet that in the end Lita really liked Kane better anyway and is going for a heel turn. The new Diva that wins could be a replacement face.

 

Not that it matters since IMO Trish and Molly are the only good Diva's there are.

Edited August 18, 2004 by The TeamPlayer

[Wizard]

Not that it matters since IMO Trish and Molly are the only good Diva's there are.

And they know how to _actually_ wrestle. I'm not saying Lita knows how either, it's just, it's nice seeing women who can actually do something.

[Skythe]

Stacey Kiebler gives me headaches in my pants. I don't give a damn about women wrestling since all of them can't do it that well to begin with.

[ugenn]

The women's division isn't about wrestling. It's a big marketing gimmick designed to draw viewership from the pimple faced, hormone charged American teenage punk by exposing as much breast and ass possible on national TV.

[Chaotica]

I don't see what's so sexy about Trish.

[ugenn]

I don't see what's so sexy about Trish.

Agreed. She got that classic trailer park trash / cheap pornstar look. Well, the same can be said of most of the so-called divas though.

[OverlordMondo]

The women's division isn't about wrestling. It's a big marketing gimmick designed to draw viewership from the pimple faced, hormone charged American teenage punk by exposing as much breast and ass possible on national TV.

It's actually used to draw in males of all age, as long as they have a lower level of sophistication.

[wacko_jacko]

I don't see what's so sexy about Trish.

Me either. She looks prostitutish

[montpics]

Well, she's out of my favorite Divas now. Made me fell sick about her.

[ForceX]

For all of you who say that Orton has not paid his dues you are totally incorrect he has been wrestling for along time now in smaller promotions in the USA and Japan, working his ass off to improve until he finally got a chance to fight on Saturday Night HEAT and his skills impressed McMahon so he was given the chance to wrestle for the WWE.

 

Also, Orton and Cena are the only real new wrestlers that deserve a Main Event push.

 

Additionally, HHH has only been champion so many times because he was banging Stephanie. Although, he is an awesome wrestler his backstage politics make him a LOSER in my books.

Edited August 19, 2004 by ForceX

[ugenn]

For all of you who say that Orton has not paid his dues you are totally incorrect he has been wrestling for along time now in smaller promotions in the USA and Japan, working his ass off to improve until he finally got a chance to fight on Saturday Night HEAT and his skills impressed McMahon so he was given the chance to wrestle for the WWE.

 

Also,  Orton and Cena are the only real new wrestlers that deserve a Main Event push.

 

Additionally, HHH has only been champion so many times because he was banging Stephanie. Although, he is an awesome wrestler his backstage politics make him a LOSER in my books.

A long time? At 24, how long can long possibly be? Longer than Mick Foley took to reach main event status? Longer than Shawn Michaels? Bret Hart? Benoit? Fact is, his rise was super-accelerated by high-profile feuds with Mick Foley and Rock to get over. I feel he should have some main event, albeit non-title feuds first before entering the title picture. Orton vs Triple H could have happened without the title.

[montpics]

Forget those things! I want "Hardcore Championship" back to life!

 

*Nah! Guess it wouldn't happened anyway."

 

Triple H vs Orton? Tired already. How about Orton vs Eugene putting the belt on the line. That should be hilarious if Eugene 'really' win the match. Doh!

[ugenn]

Forget those things! I want "Hardcore Championship" back to life!

 

*Nah! Guess it wouldn't happened anyway."

 

Triple H vs Orton? Tired already. How about Orton vs Eugene putting the belt on the line. That should be hilarious if Eugene 'really' win the match. Doh!

Hell, no. There is an over-saturation of titles as it is. In the good old days, it used to be that even winning a mid-card title like the IC title was a big deal and the mid card division was as exciting to follow as the World title. Think Randy Savage v Ricky Steamboat, Bret Hart v Mr Perfect, Bret Hart v Bulldog, Ultimate Warrior v Rick Rude, Bret Hart v Roddy Piper. I could go on and on.....but today, what has the IC title been reduced to? Just another means for plot advancement and the plots aren't even that damn great.