ForceX Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 (edited) For all of you who say that Orton has not paid his dues you are totally incorrect he has been wrestling for along time now in smaller promotions in the USA and Japan, working his ass off to improve until he finally got a chance to fight on Saturday Night HEAT and his skills impressed McMahon so he was given the chance to wrestle for the WWE. Also, Orton and Cena are the only real new wrestlers that deserve a Main Event push. Additionally, HHH has only been champion so many times because he was banging Stephanie. Although, he is an awesome wrestler his backstage politics make him a LOSER in my books.A long time? At 24, how long can long possibly be? Longer than Mick Foley took to reach main event status? Longer than Shawn Michaels? Bret Hart? Benoit? Fact is, his rise was super-accelerated by high-profile feuds with Mick Foley and Rock to get over. I feel he should have some main event, albeit non-title feuds first before entering the title picture. Orton vs Triple H could have happened without the title. I wasn't saying that he has wrestled longer than Bret Hart, Mick Foley etc I was only saying that he didn't get here today because of his Grandfather or his Father. He also had to work hard like most of the other new wreslters. Also, at the moment most of the top guys have already been champions and I for one love it when a new person is given the chance to excel e.g. Eddie Guerrero, he was an awesome wrestler but ever since he won the title he has trained alot harder and added more variety to his wrestling technique. You don't really think that the top wrestlers got where they are today without getting the opportunity to get the title. I agree that Orton got the title a bit fast but hey who else is there that deserves the title - Not HHH.... The top guys are also currently involved in other storylines, which don't require the title so it was a great opportunity to give a new person the chance to become a legend. Edited August 19, 2004 by ForceX
Wizard Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Do you even know the history of the Guerrero family? From the golden days of Lucha in Mexico to the high raise days of Japan?
ForceX Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Do you even know the history of the Guerrero family? From the golden days of Lucha in Mexico to the high raise days of Japan?As a matter of fact yes I do. I have watched old videos of the Guerrero family wrestle and have followed Eddie Guerrero's career for many years.
Chaotica Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Was HHH really banging Steph? I thought that was just a storyline. Are you sure it was happening in real life? I too think Orton has come up the ranks too fast. He may have had lots of experience outside WWE, but he needed more exposure and time within the WWE. He is a good wrestler, but it kind of feels like he has been forced down our throats.
ForceX Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Was HHH really banging Steph? I thought that was just a storyline. Are you sure it was happening in real life? I too think Orton has come up the ranks too fast. He may have had lots of experience outside WWE, but he needed more exposure and time within the WWE. He is a good wrestler, but it kind of feels like he has been forced down our throats.Errrr...HHH and Steph are now married in real life as well!!!!
The TeamPlayer Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Forget those things! I want "Hardcore Championship" back to life! *Nah! Guess it wouldn't happened anyway." Triple H vs Orton? Tired already. How about Orton vs Eugene putting the belt on the line. That should be hilarious if Eugene 'really' win the match. Doh! Hell, no. There is an over-saturation of titles as it is. In the good old days, it used to be that even winning a mid-card title like the IC title was a big deal and the mid card division was as exciting to follow as the World title. Think Randy Savage v Ricky Steamboat, Bret Hart v Mr Perfect, Bret Hart v Bulldog, Ultimate Warrior v Rick Rude, Bret Hart v Roddy Piper. I could go on and on.....but today, what has the IC title been reduced to? Just another means for plot advancement and the plots aren't even that damn great. You hit it right on the head. IMO the IC title was actually better than world title reigns in most cases. In concurrence with the classics you said the Rock and Stone Cold wouldn't be much without the IC title. Edge is such a loser... As for the problem with the world champions Smakdown is doing well since they are basically nothing but new blood there. Eddy and JBL are great. This is the 1st gimmick I have ever liked for Bradshaw, I hope he keeps that belt abit longer. Raw has too many of the big names so they are kinda like WCW used to be where it is tougher for the newblood to get over. (I said KINDA like WCW, at least on Raw new blood CAN get over =P) They just don't have many people I would want to see champion there. I prefered it when there was 1 World champion that was on both shows. Now that was entertaining. Taker rocked with that one
Wizard Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 RAW would be where all the old guys are and Smackdown would be where all the new kids hang out.
ForceX Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Well with Undertaker retiring soon, WWE needs someone new to fill in the spot that taker left vacant and Orton is the best man for the job IMHO...
L.S.D Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Well with Undertaker retiring soon, WWE needs someone new to fill in the spot that taker left vacant and Orton is the best man for the job IMHO...If Flair can keep going, so should he!
Wizard Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Well with Undertaker retiring soon, WWE needs someone new to fill in the spot that taker left vacant and Orton is the best man for the job IMHO...If Flair can keep going, so should he! Yo, if Funk is still wrestling, then anyone can still wrestle at 65
L.S.D Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Well with Undertaker retiring soon, WWE needs someone new to fill in the spot that taker left vacant and Orton is the best man for the job IMHO...If Flair can keep going, so should he! Yo, if Funk is still wrestling, then anyone can still wrestle at 65 Undertaker is just plain lazy.He should change his style as he gets older.He can't forever performing Last Ride and Chokeslam.He just can't do that at Flair's age
ugenn Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Well with Undertaker retiring soon, WWE needs someone new to fill in the spot that taker left vacant and Orton is the best man for the job IMHO...If Flair can keep going, so should he! Yo, if Funk is still wrestling, then anyone can still wrestle at 65 Funk is no longer a draw. He's probably still in the biz to make ends meet.
Wizard Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 The dude's last barbwire match last year in MLW. He must be up to something. He's retired like what? 10 times already?
ForceX Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 Well with Undertaker retiring soon, WWE needs someone new to fill in the spot that taker left vacant and Orton is the best man for the job IMHO...If Flair can keep going, so should he! Undertaker is not retiring because he cannot wrestle anymore or that he is lazy. He wants to spend more time with his wife and their new born baby. His family is more important that traveling around most of the year wrestling.
Gryph Posted August 19, 2004 Posted August 19, 2004 What kind of name is Orton? Sounds like a name you'd give to a pig.
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