Wizard Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Well the improvements in SF3 were minor ones...however, Sega is adding alot to VF4, which makes the purchase worth it, especially since they are releasing the new reversions of it at a much cheaper price in the US....Minor corrections in SF3? Let's see; (Note, each game is from the "Arcade" or "Single Player" side from the console version) SF3; New Generations - Great gameplay mechanics. Certain Unblance issues. Frist release. Double Impact - Gouki, Hugo and Urien added, Yun and Yang are now seperate characters. Character balance issues from New Generations fixed. New levels and music. Gill A.I. increased. Gouki/Shin Gouki hidden boss added. Second release. Thrid Strike - Chun-Li, Remy, Makato, Q, and Twleve added. New levels. Several (yes, several) characters minorly/severaly toned down or changed completely. New stages and music. Gill and enemy A.I. increased. Q hidden mid-boss added. Replay ablitity added to change options. New endings for some. Now, VF4; Virtual Fighter 4 - Version 1.0, 2 new characters added to the series, gameplay and engine is superb from a technical view, minor balance issues. VF4: Evolution - Brad and Gou added, more replayablity added. Minor fixes, added stages. Minor imbalance issues. Added/removed moves for some characters. VF4: Final Tuned - Fixed imbalanced issues from both V1 and V2(Evo). More stages, more replay ablity. Added/Removed moves for some characters. "Challenger" mode added. --------- Overall: Sega pulled a Capcom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceX Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Well the improvements in SF3 were minor ones...however, Sega is adding alot to VF4, which makes the purchase worth it, especially since they are releasing the new reversions of it at a much cheaper price in the US....Minor corrections in SF3? Let's see; (Note, each game is from the "Arcade" or "Single Player" side from the console version) SF3; New Generations - Great gameplay mechanics. Certain Unblance issues. Frist release. Double Impact - Gouki, Hugo and Urien added, Yun and Yang are now seperate characters. Character balance issues from New Generations fixed. New levels and music. Gill A.I. increased. Gouki/Shin Gouki hidden boss added. Second release. Thrid Strike - Chun-Li, Remy, Makato, Q, and Twleve added. New levels. Several (yes, several) characters minorly/severaly toned down or changed completely. New stages and music. Gill and enemy A.I. increased. Q hidden mid-boss added. Replay ablitity added to change options. New endings for some. Now, VF4; Virtual Fighter 4 - Version 1.0, 2 new characters added to the series, gameplay and engine is superb from a technical view, minor balance issues. VF4: Evolution - Brad and Gou added, more replayablity added. Minor fixes, added stages. Minor imbalance issues. Added/removed moves for some characters. VF4: Final Tuned - Fixed imbalanced issues from both V1 and V2(Evo). More stages, more replay ablity. Added/Removed moves for some characters. "Challenger" mode added. --------- Overall: Sega pulled a Capcom. Sorry, I actually meant to say the SF3 changes were major ones not minor ... Also, don't forget about the quest mode being added to VF4 Evo, which added alot to the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Also, SC = Fantasy, whereas VF4 is based on real life martial arts, which require practise and skills and precise timing...just like in VF4Correction. Almost every style in Soul Calibur is a real weapon art. Ninjitsu, Taijisu, Crab, Half/Full Moon, Double Sword, Iai etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatal Rose Posted April 19, 2004 Author Share Posted April 19, 2004 Also, SC = Fantasy, whereas VF4 is based on real life martial arts, which require practise and skills and precise timing...just like in VF4Correction. Almost every style in Soul Calibur is a real weapon art. Ninjitsu, Taijisu, Crab, Half/Full Moon, Double Sword, Iai etc. SC is very unrealistic compared to VF. SC is more fantasy than anything. But yes SC does have some real martial arts weapon based moves in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryph Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 I don't see why people really care if a game is realistic or not...it's a GAME. As long as its good and keeps you entertained, that's all that matters. To me SC II is way more entertaining that VF4. I always enjoyed the Soul series from Edge to Caliber II. Virtua Fighter was just never my cup of tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceX Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Yes but I was refering to that way in which the characters respond but IMHO VF4 requires much more skill to play properly than SC. Also, SC is IMHO better than SC2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Also, SC = Fantasy, whereas VF4 is based on real life martial arts, which require practise and skills and precise timing...just like in VF4Correction. Almost every style in Soul Calibur is a real weapon art. Ninjitsu, Taijisu, Crab, Half/Full Moon, Double Sword, Iai etc. SC is very unrealistic compared to VF. SC is more fantasy than anything. But yes SC does have some real martial arts weapon based moves in it. Storyline and setting wise. Although I would hate comparing now to the Japan fudeal era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatal Rose Posted April 19, 2004 Author Share Posted April 19, 2004 I don't see why people really care if a game is realistic or not...it's a GAME. As long as its good and keeps you entertained, that's all that matters. To me SC II is way more entertaining that VF4. I always enjoyed the Soul series from Edge to Caliber II. Virtua Fighter was just never my cup of tea.Well it does and doesn't matter. It depends on your personal preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot.EXE Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Well...I picked up VF4: Evolution as soon as I saw it...the best thing I can say about it, is playing alone doesn't get dull like in pretty much ALL fighters (that don't have survival mode)...Quest mode alone practically trains you for arcade playing...no other fighter I know of does that...you fight all kinds of different styles in there...it just truly prepares you for humans...and it was consistent in updating graphics...very nice...and The music isn't all that bad, I perfer the Event Square tracks myself... ...on the flipside...In terms of stages...its a step backwards from VF3 (the only other VF, aside from VF Kids, I never played)...I recall the stages in 3 to have more life to them, and weren't just caged in squares...also...VF never really had that much of a story to follow (all I know is Lau is Pai's dad, and Sarah is Jacky's sister)...and no story = dull...and I don't know about you all...but Kage has got to be the most boring ninja ever...I didn't think that was even possible...and there's that one other problem...despite the depth it actually has, VF was always a bit too button masher friendly...only 3d game that wasn't really BMF was Tekken...but thats a whole 'nother story... ...well...there's my contribution to this post...Riot.exe are you serious??? I remember just pressing punch in Tekken all the time and pulling off like a 10 hit combo...now if you don't call that a button masher then there is something wrong with you....I tried that exact same stunt with VF4 and could only pull off a 2 hit combo.... Please guys actually play VF4 using some of the harder characters such as Akira and then post back here about wether you still think its a button masher Chill out..I'm not saying you can't button mash in tekken...but its not as easy to get away with it in that series, than it is in VF or DoA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cominus Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Also, SC = Fantasy, whereas VF4 is based on real life martial arts, which require practise and skills and precise timing...just like in VF4Correction. Almost every style in Soul Calibur is a real weapon art. Ninjitsu, Taijisu, Crab, Half/Full Moon, Double Sword, Iai etc. SC is very unrealistic compared to VF. SC is more fantasy than anything. But yes SC does have some real martial arts weapon based moves in it. WTF? Realistic? That stupid wrestler guy tosses you more around than gold burg. Hell he can probably go up agaisnt the hulk. The game feels like tony hawk, too much damn air time. It feel like DBZ except without the kio-ken and fire balls. The game is is nowhere fantasy, except the actual characters, but who doesnt was to see whats her name in a thong? If you want realistic play Fight Night 2004, or was it 2003, or maybe even the UFC or pride. Save me the flame, stop your bitching and get off the rag...the regualr rag not that guy in the fourms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceX Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Once again...Are you serious Riot.exe...dude VF4 is the least BMF game I have ever seen...In Tekken you can just kick the crap out of your opponent just by pressing punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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