In Garou, Geese dies in '97(Offical, he finally dies, Terry tries to save him but Geese lets go), but here he is, in 2003, alive and well. hmm.... but are you SURE geese is back in kof2k4? The dude is alive and well in 2003. He isn't dead yet in other words. And Rock looks friking 15 now. Thats a big gap from 2001 to 2003. SNK doesn't know their own timelines anymore. ok, i may be a lil braindead.... i played kof2k3 dozens of times and i can't remember geese being alive and we...... never mind, i just remember that he got the outlaw team together, never mind