PhilExile Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 I've no idea about this pixel perfect thing. I just left the screen sizes as they were, switched the Widescreen Fix on, and everything seems to be the right size to these old eyes. I use bilinier and scanlines, so maybe this combination is hiding most artefacts I would see otherwise. You're right, billinear hides the artifacts. However, what would be nice for a future release is if these perfect inis (that's what I'm gonna call them anyways) were somehow incorporated, maybe as just the default inis sitting in the folder (easy enough to delete if you don't like, right?) - so I could at least see how all you guys think these games should look. Once Cos and I finish our set, we can post links for download. I doubt it will be any more than 1 meg at most. Also, if T wants, we could include these with FBL at some point. Not as the default, but just included in a folder if you want to use them. They will be for 480i/p only, unless Cos wants to make 720p too. The only games I could see the point of that for though would be the widescreen Capcom ones.
PhilExile Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Wow - very impressive. T, I keep forgetting to ask - does FBL take advantage of additional RAM and/or upgraded CPUs if you have them?No idea. I don't have either so I can't test but most games in FBL run at full speed in HD with filters anyway, so it's hard to see why you would need them. Of course there are the CPS3 games that still run out of memory on a standard Xbox but based on iq's video it looks like those days could be numbered. Neo and I could help you test. We both have upgraded Xbox systems. The reason I ask is because it does help play games at a consistent frame rate and would likely enable some game that may prove unplayable on a standard Xbox work. For instance - in CoinOps, ELEVATOR ACTION RETURNS plays at a steady 60fps, whereas on a normal Xbox it runs between 35-40fps. Also, I can load and play MONSTER MAULERS at 60fps. This rom can't load on a standard.
RatherAnnoyed Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Thanks for the swift replies guys. I really don't have time to mess around with building rompacks these days, and I'm also on a limited download package. Hopefully someone will put together an upgrade pack that contains only the differences between the 1.3 roms and 1.4. Can I just ask, are we certain mslug3 is one of those roms that should not work between 1.3 and 1.4? Because as I say, I got it to work by simply changing the bios. Anyway, I'm happy enough that this release just lets me play the new(ish) cave stuff, to be honest! +T+: I might be mistaken as to the causes, but it was definitely one of the recently added cave titles that give me an out of memory (i.e. either ket, espgal, or ddp3 - pretty sure it was espgal though).As I say, might have been something else I fiddled with; maybe I changed the filters before dropping to 720 and that's what fixed it instead? It's possible - I just remember that it wouldn't work off the bat with the settings that were my default, is all.Wasn't aware of that issue with guwange, mind. Which is strange... because I've been playing that one recently... You'd think everyone's xbox would be the same, wouldn't you?
jamallego Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 hi about FBL 1.4 i have tested these roms that were included in the download: - wow new fantasy: its upside down- vimana: no sound- kiling blade: dont load, crc error- knights of valour: dont load- knights of valour superheroes: dont load- alien sector: doesnt show up in the list- maze of flott: you cant past the test screen- osman: graphic glitches- party time: graphic glitches someone has the same troubles?? thanks
+ T + Posted August 16, 2011 Author Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) hi about FBL 1.4 i have tested these roms that were included in the download: - wow new fantasy: its upside down- vimana: no sound- kiling blade: dont load, crc error- knights of valour: dont load- knights of valour superheroes: dont load- alien sector: doesnt show up in the list- maze of flott: you cant past the test screen- osman: graphic glitches- party time: graphic glitches someone has the same troubles?? thanks - wow new fantasy: So it is.- vimana: Sound is unsupported by the current driver.- kiling blade: Works fine. Your ROM is incorrect.- knights of valour: Works fine. Your ROM is incorrect.- knights of valour superheroes: Works fine. Your ROM is incorrect.- alien sector: Works fine. Your ROM is incorrect.- maze of flott: Disable DIP switches and it works fine.- osman: Yes there are, perhaps if we ask iq_132 very nicely he'll take a look one day- party time: " PS: Just so you know, there are NO roms included in the official FBL1.4 download. Edited August 16, 2011 by + T +
jamallego Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Thanks for you answer, where can i get the proper roms??? Do not ask for roms!! great job you are doing and iq_ 132..
- kenshiro - Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) I say this because I too thought that I had roms that were not working (even though they all worked with 1.3), however, I did make an interesting discovery last night: I noticed that the default setting for the NEOGEO bios is set to US version 6 or something. I too could not get mslug3 or KOF98 to work. (I will say, though, that I did not get any error, they just hung on the green screen that appears before the game). I got around this by going into the game, clicking the right thumb to get to the in game menu (strangely, I had to click three times for these games), and then setting the bios to 2.3. BAM, games worked perfectly then? Strange. Because the default bios in FBL 1.3 (i didn't try the 1.4 ATM) is the Unibios 2.3, to avoid this green screen (it is a neogeo self hardware test). +T+, did you change it (i'm currently at my work, i don't have the sources on my hand)? Edited August 16, 2011 by - kenshiro -
+ T + Posted August 16, 2011 Author Posted August 16, 2011 Yes, I did change the default NG bios to MVS. Unibios are great to have as an option but I don't care for them personally. I prefer the authentic arcade bios as the default.
Cospefogo Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Yes, I did change the default NG bios to MVS. Unibios are great to have as an option but I don't care for them personally. I prefer the authentic arcade bios as the default. Hej! I prefer the bios where I can play the fightinggames in all bloody gore violent mode. =) What are the differences between the BIOSes? Ah, and I just noticed the old garbled green screen back!No problem for me! C.
PhilExile Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Ya, I never understood what the different bios do. Is there a Wiki on it? Yes, I did change the default NG bios to MVS. Unibios are great to have as an option but I don't care for them personally. I prefer the authentic arcade bios as the default.
iq_132 Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Here's a little wip update: All sets now work-- They all run 45 to 55 fpsThe vmm has been greatly updated-- faster-- able to handle different read types At this point I have not started optimizing the speed at all. I have no idea if I can get them full speed or not.
Bigby Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) I'm making some missing videos for FBL and the sound in "Dokaben" is all messed up. It's fine in FBA on PC. It's a baseball type game, so there might not be a alot of interest in it, but thought I'd mention it Edited August 16, 2011 by Bigby
destronger Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) hi about FBL 1.4 i have tested these roms that were included in the download: - wow new fantasy: its upside down normally if you check the video options you can rotate the screen, ie 90', 180' and so on. you may have to leave the rom then reload from the game list It's a baseball type game, so there might not be a alot of interest in it, but thought I'd mention it only if the boston red sox are playing then there is interest... Yes, I did change the default NG bios to MVS. Unibios are great to have as an option but I don't care for them personally. I prefer the authentic arcade bios as the default. i've noticed that many of my neogeo sets (i have the cbagy 1.4 set[mucho gracias cbagy ]) have been set to the mvs bios. answers that question. i get the green screen... of course manually changing them to the uni bios is easy, just tedious. i really like the update. +T+, kenshiro, and iq_132. yoos ar reelly is guud. Edited August 16, 2011 by tristanx
neoryu Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Here's a little wip update: All sets now work-- They all run 45 to 55 fpsThe vmm has been greatly updated-- faster-- able to handle different read types At this point I have not started optimizing the speed at all. I have no idea if I can get them full speed or not. Rather shocking to see all of these recent updates being made to FBL. Some heavy improvements and additions have been made that were once thought to be impossible on the Xbox. The new PGM2 games on Xbox? CPS3 games in FBL? Man, that's crazy. There's so much to be excited for. @iq_132: I have a question for you. Does the new universal VMM you wrote apply to all games that require VMM or is it core specific?
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