wolverine origins

[Krosigrim]

Why do they mess anyone up... It's all based on fools and money. Fools fill the world, and money drives things. Some ass hat trying to capitalize on the hero buzz tries to make a origins movie. Since everyone likes Jackman, This movie here is a great opportunity. They figure, as they always do, that people will come to see it regardless. But then... as always, people decide that they need to alter something to either draw in more people, or to help mesh with the story they have thought up already. And since its FOX, its likely written on a 5th grade reading level. (American 5th grade) which is roughly... "see spot... see spot run" ((hey I can say this... I'm American))

 

I hate when people take over a story, and butcher it. The first Hulk movie, the 3rd Spider Man, X-men in general. I hate retelling. Look... the story has been around forever, and in that time, they have forged the right story. BS imperfections have been lost over the years. Then someone who hears how popular something is, re-writes the story based on their feeble minds ability to absorb what makes it badass in the first place. Like Hulk... how the hell was that guy gonna make a drama out of Hulk? Over half the movie was build up... so anyone who didn't know who the hulk was knew... and that everyone might have a feeble connection to the character.

 

I know of plot devices, I know of making the audience attached to the characters. I know there is a balance that must be attained. It is tricky... but they need ultimate script doctors that nix this bs movie/comic adaptations. But noooooooooooooo. That will never happen.

 

Tell you what, if I ever made a comic, you can be damn certain that I will be the head honcho that actually makes the movie. flock all this Bs thought up from someone who unmistakeably cannot fathom what makes something special/awesome/inspiring

 

And the bastards at FOX are the worst...

[ken_cinder]

Let me know when there is a DVDRIP, and not Screeners.

 

Sure, check back in 3+ months when it's actually out on DVD, otherwise any DVD rip IS a screener.

What do you mean by screener? Cam?

 

It's not a screener, it's a workprint. A workprint looks like a pre-production film, mostly complete but lacking some editing, CGI, overdubs, that sort of thing. Workprints are ok for 'normal' movies without any special effects, but not for this sort of thing

 

Terminology is rather washy there. A workprint it may be, but that wasn't my point, you're arguing semantics for the hell of it.

 

A CAM is not necessarily a screener, a DVD RIP isn't necessarily a Screener. A Screener is a review piece that is supposed to be kept private, doesn't matter what form it takes on.

Even a Screener isn't always a final work, as that's the point of them, for review. Many times a movie has had edits made based on reviews of a screener.

 

DVD RIP = Ripped from a DVD (Can be retail, workprint, screener or what have you).

 

I fail to see how a workprint, screener or retail = DVD RIP, someone could have CAM'd a screener or workprint. You're all getting capture/conversion methods confused with distribution types.

 

Most think a DVD RIP is a retail rip, so you'll be waiting months for that.

[Krosigrim]

And knowing is half the battle...

[solidius23]

G I JOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Wizard]

Well that was terrible.

[Skythe]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? Your kidding!!! And I thought it was flocked up when Venom... Eddie Brock was a skinny little twirp just like that (Peter Parker in the movie) whoever he is who can hardly move his lips when he speaks... in SM3. They used a skinny punk so "normal" people can relate to having an evil version of themselves. FUUUUCK THAT!!!! Eddie Brock is a meat head. Skinny 'lil venom... now a baraka toothed non talking DP?

 

He gets Baraka blades on his arms, shoots lasers out of his eyes and can teleport without a device.

[KyokugenKiss]

They fuked up Deadpool. This movie sucks. It sucked anyway for the horrible non-linear methods that have also been used in the X-Men films but christ. I wonder which script writer thought it was a genius idea to make DP look like Baraka from Mortal Kombat and to have his trademark ability to talk his mouth off disabled cuz it's sewn shut.

 

 

i havent seen it yet, isnt Ryan Renoylds deadpool? i always thought he would be a good fit to play the merc with a mouth

[Inky]

he is for the 15 minutes he is able to talk.

[Krosigrim]

He gets Baraka blades on his arms, shoots lasers out of his eyes and can teleport without a device.

Nuh uh! Tell me your lying!

 

he is for the 15 minutes he is able to talk.

Ok then... I was wondering how that woulda worked. Guess I took his description too literally.

[Lucandrake]

Belth, to answer your question.

 

A good writer costs more then a average writer.

 

If both writers bring in the same amount of $$$, then why hire the good one that adds less profit?

[gavin19]

Terminology is rather washy there. A workprint it may be, but that wasn't my point, you're arguing semantics for the hell of it.

 

I wasn't arguing about anything. I was stating that it was a workprint because the quality difference between that and a proper screener is usually very significant!

 

As for DVD rips, some films are mislabelled as such, eg a very good screener passed off as a DVD rip. In proper usage they should only ever refer to a copy of a retail DVD.

[Krosigrim]

Belth, to answer your question.

 

A good writer costs more then a average writer.

 

If both writers bring in the same amount of $$$, then why hire the good one that adds less profit?

I never had a question like that. Rather... when I ask why do they have to flock everything up, its rethorical. I know all too well why everything sucks, perople are more concerned about money, than a perfect product.

 

I had an argument before. I was working at a Subway, and when it comes to subs, I am the master. It may sound silly, but my subs actually are better. I could literally write 6 or more large paragraphs in instructions or guidelines on bread baking, condoment placement, meat & vegtable, best oil/vinegar ratio (70/30) not the 50/50 Subway regulations. There are ALOT of little things that I do that add up to a great sandwitch.

 

So anyway, I had this new boss, and she thought herself pretty quick. She would be on the line with me during the Christmas shopping fest at the food court I just got a job at. So it was non stop for 8 hours. We did very well, prep and everything. Lots of extra stuff, we never ran out. We were on top of everything... never even ran out of ANY type of bread.

 

So there she is, going at lightning pace starting off the sandwiches. Adding meat and cheese to the bread. She would go so fast though, her sandwiches were jacked. Meatballs all unevenly placed, with a bite of bread at one end. Roast beef or whatever not well layed. She always suggested, "American cheese?" I hate that, one because American cheese sucks ass, and two, american cheese sticks to itself and is the more tedious of cheeses to work with. Anyway, id get the sandwich... all jacked up, and id fix it before id ask the customer what they wanted on it. I could her her sigh or "pffft" at the site of me doing this... every time.

 

I wasted no time really... The register girl couldnt keep up with us anyway, so no one waited on me to finish. Id ask her to try to make it neater... instead of going faster... which was obviousally unecessary. We would get into arguments about it, she saying the customer doesnt care... they are hungry and they are already going to eat our food. Id remark that we are too fast anyway, (we really were fast) and we might as well make awesome sandwiches in the process. She once told me she could never go into buisness with me as I don't understand how a buisness works.

 

I completely disagree... I made awesome sandwiches... and very efficiently. I am a talker, so as I construct a sandwich, Id talk to my customer about whatever... if they are so inclined. (regulars) I got tips and everything daily (the previous Subway I worked at) Id get repeat customers allways. I even had a few that would request me to make their sandwiched over whoever greeted them. I made a clientell through my effort, and thats the side of buisness I want to attain. Id rather be proud that my sandwiches kick ass.

 

That is how the world works, and it is unfortunate. The same can be said for videogames. How many truly good games are there? I know it's opinion based, but honestly, what is the ratio of good vs bad games. Movies, food, every/any type of buisness.

 

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But as for the writer here... Its not all his fault. There are ALOT of people responsible for jacked up plot points or plot devices. Retarded scripts. The studio for one... producers & directors to name more. It went through alot of hands... and they are all stained... heh

[Wizard]

I'd actually just blame the writer(2). Everything starts with him/her/them. Then we start hating down the line naturally, such as bad photography, terrible sound, sometimes actors can do what they do but completely fail because of terrible writing.

[Shoma]

OKay enough! Spare me the "cash cow" excuse Betlha, these guys screw things up cuz they dont know shiz about what the people want and they strive SOOO HARD to upgrade everything to a "realistic" sense.

If it was all about money they would go with the normal format like how the fans have been begging for ever since SPiderman 1! First off... EVERYONE KNOWS SPIDERMAN! I dun care who u r, u either heard of him or saw him or at least know a piece of his origin, xmen kinda da same but still everyone knows that guy who shoots beams and the "claw-guy" wearing spandex! By pasting thier name and a cool trailer, you already got your money, but no one wants come across corny. And i admit im not sure how i would of reacted to wolverine wearing his yellow/blue outfit in real life... im sure it may of raised an eyebrow but okay, the problem is they take the revamping too far for realism and bam! Welcome to Hollywood!

 

Even in dragon ball Evo the director said himself that they made bulma hair brown since blue hair would be too unrealistic. Its about a alien boy who;s able to shoot energy from his hands in a world where u can carry vehicles in a capsule..... what reality are you looking for!?!??! THe thing is since it has a comic name, the fans will see it and those who heard of it will see it as well. The box office doesn't care if you didnt like, as long as you paid that ticket. SUre they care about money, but they still try to reverb everything to "now".

 

I dont go to movies to see reality, THAT SHI** IS OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW!!!!

[Krosigrim]

Well I'm not sure where your going on that one Shoma, in reguards to me. The reason things suck... ultimately, is some asshats concept of someone elses material is stretched out of the creators, and into the hands of money hungry dummies. It is ultimately crap, because they do try to normalize everything... but in their own preconcepts. They try and make something as appealing to the masses as possible. So more people buy into it and bring their hard earned money.

 

Also though... I have to admit, I'm a very tough critic. I have my opinions, but... I ultamately know what is good/bad news. Hulk dramma... bad news. The whole Venom thing... that was a debocle. Appearently someone didnt want to do a forth, so they jammed in 2 movie plots into one, and screwed both of them in the process. But what are you gonna do.

 

Shoma... you appraisal of this "not knowing what people want" is most similar to the fact, that they are trying to make something pallateable for the broadest demographic. So in that light... it is the same as the "cash cow" agitive you used to describe my rantings. More of the same...

 

And as for Wizard... I believe the writers don't hold all the blame. They often have to follow a story board of events. Or basically write something AROUND what the "powers that be" want. Look at Jar Jar Binks... that was Lucas making the talent come up with some silly plot device (or equivalent for characters) that would be fooled by palpitene, and add commic relief throught the movie. Which failed... Sure the creators should be shot... but lucas should be drawn and quartered for requesting such a horable thing! But yea... once it smells of failure... you are right, then the hateing begins... har