FBA-XXX compile help

[Prican25]

i too hear the sound breaking up a bit here and there with mslug4 encrypted and this problem was gonna get fixed by manto but as you all know he has left the project. so unless any of you really know how to mess with the code, we're stuck with what we got.

 

also i like to say that djohng's patch works nicely but i wonder why cthd2003 encrypted has that gfx glitch, oh well

Edited September 19, 2004 by Prican25

[Thraxen]

i too hear the sound breaking up a bit here and there with mslug4 encrypted and this problem was gonna get fixed by manto but as you all know he has left the project.

 

But my problem is with the decrypted version. It worked fine in the 8-02 release.

[herbalb]

First of all thanks for all your work here.

 

I used the ips-patch with fbaxxx in order to play Samurai S. 5 SP but the rom didn´t work so I used CLRMamePro with the dat from djohng and checked my samsh5sp.zip. The result was, that some files where missing or CRC-Check failed.

 

I merged the 4 V roms into 2, renamed them according to the dat-file entry for CLRMame to "272-v1d.bin" and "272-v2d.bin" and they seem to be OK.

 

But the only ROMs I couldn´t fix are the p and C roms. In every samsh5sp.zip-file that I find there´s only one p-rom with 8 MB - splitting them into 2 and renaming them does not work.

And the C roms have CRC-errors.

So how can I fix this???

 

Thanks in advance

[N3oGhost]

herbalb, i wouldnt worry about it. SSVS isnt even complete yet.

 

[herbalb]

N3oGhost , so you mean there´s no way at the moment to get it to work with perfect sound and everything? And the correct C-ROMS and those 2 p-ROMs aren´t even released yet??

I tried these ROMs with kawax and they worked quite fine, except for sound...

But in FBAXXX I get the message that the C-ROMS have CRC-error (and of course one p ROM is missing)...

[Agozer]

N3oGhost , so you mean there´s no way at the moment to get it to work with perfect sound and everything? And the correct C-ROMS and those 2 p-ROMs aren´t even released yet??

I tried these ROMs with kawax and they worked quite fine, except for sound...

But in FBAXXX I get the message that the C-ROMS have CRC-error (and of course one p ROM is missing)...

One P rom isn't missing since the P1 already contains the data for the P2. The only thing that is really missing is the decrypted M1.

[herbalb]

the p1 contains the data for p2? But I split it into 2, renamed them but then Clrmame reported CRC-errors with these, too.

And what about the C-roms? Could it be that every set I download contains (according to Clrmame) the wrong C-roms?

And by the way, thanks for all your fast answers.

Edited September 20, 2004 by herbalb

[Agozer]

the p1 contains the data for p2? But I split it into 2, renamed them but then Clrmame  reported CRC-errors with these, too.

And what about the C-roms? Could it be that every set I download contains (according to Clrmame) the wrong C-roms?

And by the way, thanks for all your fast answers.

There is only one set of C roms out there, AFAIK. I could be wrong though.

 

CRCs always change if you tamper with files, and most of the time you won't get the CRCs you want unless you hack the contents of the file.

Edited September 20, 2004 by Agozer

[herbalb]

I see. But now I' m a little bit confused.

Does this mean at the moment there is no way of playing this game with correct sound neither on kawax nor FBAXXX?

And is there an option where I could skip CRC-check with FBAXXX because everytime I try I see the list of files with CRC errors and then it hangs. Did I miss something??

[Agozer]

I see. But now I' m a little bit confused.

Does this mean at the moment there is no way of playing this game with correct sound neither on kawax nor FBAXXX?

Yes. Well, there is no way of playing this game with correct sounds in ANY emulator.

 

As for the CRC check skipping in FBAxxx, that's not my field of expertise; ask Prican25, he might know.

[Prican25]

best thng to do is use romcenter with the dat thats included with the patch to check your rom set.

 

i believe he added both encrypted/decrypted sets to fba-xxx so that might be why you got the c roms error depending on the set its looking for.

[djohng]

Update:

 

mslug4nd sound problems-fixed

 

The bad sound is related to roms themselves, not VMM or anything else. I checked the latest driver crcs for mslug4nd in neomame, and I've matched these in the source....and now we have great sound in mslug4nd.

 

I suspect, a number of people are using the old source of fbaxxx that does not have crcs implemented for a number of the missing roms; thus when you use clrmame or romcenter, it just pulls the files that are missing without checking the crcs.

 

I use the crcs for the roms, because this lends more easily with checking problems with the source code vs. problems with having the correct roms.

 

cthd2003 - I suspect the same thing is happening here or the decryption routine is messed up. Because the decrypted version works well.

 

samsh5sp - No M rom has been released. Until this is released...this is the best that's available. (ss5 md rom).

 

-djohng

Edited September 20, 2004 by djohng

[Agozer]

samsho5s - No decrypted V or M have been released...so sound is pulled from decrypted samsho5 roms.  Until they're released...this is the best that's available.

 

-djohng

Correction: Encrypted Vs have been released + a tool to decrypt them. Check the official Samsho5sp thread (latter half).

Edited September 20, 2004 by Agozer

[djohng]

samsho5s - No decrypted V or M have been released...so sound is pulled from decrypted samsho5 roms.  Until they're released...this is the best that's available.

 

-djohng

Correction: Encrypted Vs have been released + a tool to decrypt them. Check the official Samsho5sp thread (latter half).

 

That's great, but I tried the tool, and I have 2 issues, once I use these files:

 

1) Game locks up with a warning. And you can't get past it without implementing the universal bios 2 in AES mode.

2) The sound in the game with these new decrypted files sounds like hell. Lots of static, and misqued sounds...girl voices for men, etc. Kindof funny, but the original crcs roms I'm using, sound a lot better!.

 

I've put the source for the files in the d_neogeo.cpp if you want to uncomment them and compile your own version.

 

-djohng

Edited September 20, 2004 by djohng

[+ T +]

The VMM issue is seperate to the mslug4nd problem. In fact I got so sick of the sound glitching every so often in big games when using any compile based on 09-01-2004 that I'm now using the 06-04-2004 release and just adding the features/drivers that I want to it. samsh5sp works just as nicely on this version as do all the most up-to-date rom dumps that I have. The only difference I've found is that to get the transparencies from 512Kb S roms in games like SvC Chaos, the rom data has to be in memory order whereas 09-01 required it to be in rom order, that's it so far as I can tell. IMO this version is a far better base to work on.

 

Manto should never have changed the VMM code in the 08-02 release. It was much better as it was.