Which romsets you prefer to use?

[wicked_dumbo_octobus]

No-Intro ROCKS when compared to Goodsets. No-Intro is the only set which uses 100% accurate dumbs.

 

There is 2 different versions of Super Mario Bros. in No-Intro set:

 

Super Mario Bros. (Europe) (Rev A).nes

Super Mario Bros. (World).nes

 

There is 897 different versions of Super Mario Bros. in GoodNES.

 

2600 Bros (SMB1 Hack) [o1].nes

2600 Bros (SMB1 Hack).nes

Acid Bros (SMB1 Hack).nes

AckII Art Mario by SnowArrow (SMB1 Hack).nes

[...]

[ressurectionx]

Perhaps you're confusing No-Intro sets with Goodtools sets since those are the ones with 20 different versions of each game. No-Intro has no crap, only has one dump for each verified cartridge in the same way that MAME has a romset for each genuine arcade board. True that does usually give you more than one rom for each game but one person's 'messy' is another's 'complete'.

 

There's no need to feel insulted. You can't expect that your project is going to fit everyone's emulation needs. I think it's great what you've done and will no doubt appeal to a lot of gamers. But for collectors who value complete and up-to-date roms above all that other stuff, No-Intro is the only way to go.

 

I respectfully disagree. That is why I've made my own sets. If there is any reason to have a second version of a rom, for example the higher audio quality in the Japan roms, I have included them and added the alternate information to the synopsis. I am 100% confident that my romset is not only complete, but it is more concise than No-Intro.

 

Also, if you're using No-Intro, you would have to convert everything to my names if you want to use the videos, Complete boxart/title/action packs with many carts, and .CUT files for command line launching among other things. Also, when madmab gets the media player to full functionality, you will need to do this for the added functionality of automatically bringing up the commercial, game review, manual and strategy guide for each game.

 

No-Intro is the best place to grab the roms to make an Rx set, but you'll want to convert the names when these are uploaded.

 

P.S. Obviously it's a small test group here, but my Xtras are only 1 behind no-intro. Not too shabby considering my romsets have never been publicly available yet and no-intro has been established for years.

Edited January 25, 2010 by ressurectionx

[+ T +]

I respectfully disagree. That is why I've made my own sets. If there is any reason to have a second version of a rom, for example the higher audio quality in the Japan roms, I have included them and added the alternate information to the synopsis. I am 100% confident that my romset is not only complete, but it is more concise than No-Intro.

You are aware that, in addition to the main DATs for each system, No-Intro also provides a parent-clone DAT. If you take only the parent sets from this DAT you would have only one ROMset for each game with no regional or other duplicates. Takes about 10 seconds to turn a full No-Intro set into a 'concise' 1-Game-1-ROM set.

[ressurectionx]

I respectfully disagree. That is why I've made my own sets. If there is any reason to have a second version of a rom, for example the higher audio quality in the Japan roms, I have included them and added the alternate information to the synopsis. I am 100% confident that my romset is not only complete, but it is more concise than No-Intro.

You are aware that, in addition to the main DATs for each system, No-Intro also provides a parent-clone DAT. If you take only the parent sets from this DAT you would have only one ROMset for each game with no regional or other duplicates. Takes about 10 seconds to turn a full No-Intro set into a 'concise' 1-Game-1-ROM set.

 

And it takes about 4 years to combine everything with beautiful touched up boxart sets, generic boxarts, synopsis, commericals, manuals, video previews for every game (including many hacks/translations/prototypes/unlicensed/homebrew...... 1,733 for the NES alone and counting), and all the other Xtras. Not to mention testing the games on the XBox to make sure they work and replacing bad roms with good ones. Plus you have to make it XFAT compatible.

 

No-Intro = No-Xtras. It's a barebones romset that will not work with my project unless you rename the roms.

[Mega Man (?)]

I don't really see the argument here...

Anyone can just take their sets and simply rename them to the Xtras... or they can rename the Xtras to their sets...

If they have such a preference. (I don't know who out there(?) that is so picky about having all the dumps (or multiple good ones) and "doesn't" appreciate "Xtras")

It will "still" be more convenient than doing all of this yourself.

 

I know for myself,

prior to the Xtras and helping with them, I did a crap load of renaming and artwork matching all by myself (for myself). (forget that... ) I am sure many others out there tried the same thing.

 

Now, no one ever has to! It's done!

and, their most complete and efficient way/sets, to date (by far!)

Edited January 26, 2010 by Mega Man (?)

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The point I'm trying to get across is that different sets suit different users. Some will like attractive boxart and videos, others will prefer more complete and up to date ROMs. But there is no one best set for everyone.

 

ressurectionx appears to be of the opinion that the Xtras set is the undisputed best for all users, which simply is not true. That's not to put down any of the work that's gone into it, it's just a statement of fact.

[Mega Man (?)]

The point I'm trying to get across is that different sets suit different users. Some will like attractive boxart and videos, others will prefer more complete and up to date ROMs. But there is no one best set for everyone.

In that case,

yes, this is very true.

everyone will always have their own opinions and preferences. (and should)

 

And, like I said, if they want both... they can always name their sets to match the Xtras.

[waal]

For playing on xbox, RessurectionXtras are definitly the best. I realize that now I'm rebuilding my HD from scratch because it's much easier to organize and then to read. And to me the selection itself suits the needs of both hardcore and casual gamers.

 

Besides, Tosec roms are the most difficult to sort then Goodset then No-Intro. But I keep them for collection. Especially those from Tosec because of cracking scene releases and alternate versions...

[NEIL222]

The point I'm trying to get across is that different sets suit different users. Some will like attractive boxart and videos, others will prefer more complete and up to date ROMs. But there is no one best set for everyone.

 

Exactly.

Everyone has different tastes in what they want/like.

Not everyone will be using RessurectionXtras, so those people (myself included) will opt for other methods.

No disrespect to anyone here, just the way things work...

No need for anyone to get hot under the collar.

[neoryu]

The point I'm trying to get across is that different sets suit different users. Some will like attractive boxart and videos, others will prefer more complete and up to date ROMs. But there is no one best set for everyone.

 

ressurectionx appears to be of the opinion that the Xtras set is the undisputed best for all users, which simply is not true. That's not to put down any of the work that's gone into it, it's just a statement of fact.

 

 

I have to agree with you here +T+. I use No-Intro sets as well, primarily for the bolded reason. So far I can't see that changing either. My vote was somehow recorded for Goodset, but it's really not a big deal.

 

We all have our preferences and I don't think there's any disrespect to anyone based on that. The Xtras project will still be appreciated by many and credit to everyone who worked on it.

[ressurectionx]

I just don't even see the point of having the games if you have no visual representation for them, especially when all the work is being done for you.

 

What a boring XBox/Cab/PC setup you all must have...

[NEIL222]

I just don't even see the point of having the games if you have no visual representation for them, especially when all the work is being done for you.

 

What a boring XBox/Cab/PC setup you all must have...

 

Who said anything about not having a visual representation?

A screenshot or video preview is good enough for me.

That combined with an ability to produce my own skins if needed.

[Devia Eleven]

I don't know in specific, but I prefer the ones that come un-zipped, so I won't have to spend hours un-zipping 600 roms.

[ressurectionx]

I just don't even see the point of having the games if you have no visual representation for them, especially when all the work is being done for you.

 

What a boring XBox/Cab/PC setup you all must have...

 

Who said anything about not having a visual representation?

A screenshot or video preview is good enough for me.

That combined with an ability to produce my own skins if needed.

 

 

True, but I spent a lot of time making everything match so other people wouldn't have to. Originally I started out and thought that all I was going to do was have a single title shot of each game to scroll through. I made the title shots myself, as they were my original way of testing games and marking them before I was doing any spreadsheets. That's how I started the project about 4 years ago. (And that alone took a ton of time... Also consider that any romsets out there were 4 years less advanced as they are now too, and you can imagine how difficult just this alone was).

 

From there it kinda morphed into something that's completely insane. I'm hoping that when I release these and people can see them for themselves all this work won't seem as crazy as at was when I was doing it.

 

 

I won't argue anymore about it. There's really no point, and it's not fair for me to judge other people's views on this when my stuff isn't publicly available and setup so it's easy to use yet. If, when that time comes, people are still under the impression that using my sets isn't the best way to go without having even tried them out, then I will just chalk it up to close-mindedness on their part.

 

 

 

BTW... by this time tomorrow there will be over 600 commercials added to the Xtras in XMV format. We've also got a scraper for YouTube now so if people find commercials that I don't have we can get them easily and convert them. What a trip watching those old Atari commercials in the XPORT: Madmab Edition Media Browser. I've had tons of commercials for going on 3 years now and I wondered if I'd ever do anything with them.

 

We have several people collecting GameFaqs for the Media Browser and hope to have it setup to pull the right one automatically based off the rom filename and the Faq filename. They look great in the TXT file viewer now that madmab put in the fixed-width font.

 

Also, I'm going to start working on the manuals again later this week. I hope to have a huge collection available in JPG format so they are viewable in the emus.

[Mega Man (?)]

BTW... by this time tomorrow there will be over 600 commercials added to the Xtras in XMV format

Wait, these will be in ".XMV" format...? and not .wmv... This means, you wont be release them publicly, if this is the case.