Oops sorry I thought this thread was dead. My games machine is my usual win95, however it got an upgrade yesterday. The bus speed went from 66 to 100 mhz, which changes the processor speed from 333 to 500 mhz. The old slow 192mb of ram was replaced with a single 256mb 133mhz stick. The video card is the same Trident card with I think 4mb on it. Due to a resultant NTKERN error, I removed the USB support that never worked anyway. In mame, neogeo games increased from 3-4fps to 15-20fps, which makes them quite playable now. Zinc only had a slight difference, running at 3fps instead of 1fps. Still, if I wait long enough, Rival Schools attract mode has a very very nice 3d picture. It's just slow. If a P4 isn't enough, then there is no point persuing the matter further. It will have to wait until I can get a modern computer - and I'm in no rush at this time.