Are you referring to those people who use some other browser than IE as "ones with brains"? Well, that's one thing, but more specifically those who don't click on every email attachment, or open every.exe that a porn or warez site pops up on their browser, etc. I suppose I should have specified "real life situations for most of us." Ah, much better. I'm just glad that my mom isn't that interested in computers, although I always keep watch while she does something on this machine. *Most* of my friends are educated enough not to click on those popups and scripts and whatnot. Wait a minute....if you don't click on them, how would you close them?? What the witty reply. Ok, you win.