L.S.D Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 Genesis is an allegory now? Well, can't the entire Bible, then, be taken as an allegory? Is it only the incorrect parts of the book that are allegorys? Anon.Well, actually the Bible is an account of what has happenned since the beginning of the world. And if you have read the Da Vincei code, it has mentioned that the Roman Catholics has excluded certain gospels and paragraphs from the REAL account to mislead the world when the time they compile an official version of the Bible. Oh well...
OverlordMondo Posted September 10, 2004 Author Posted September 10, 2004 I don't know what I believe really, I'm taking this chance to view all the facts. I know one thing, I was raised as a christian. My whole family is christian. "Those who do not learn from the past, are condemned to repeat it." So I applied history to the bible. I came up with this... First off, God is an idiot. One reason. The two trees. He creates them, and then doesn't let humans eat from them. Why? Who knows?! No one knows! He's an idiot! Why create them if they serve no purpose!? One must now assume they have a purpose. But it's not for the human's purpose, because we can't eat them. So who are they for? God? The flock... Speaking of flock, we're often referred to as sheep. He is the sheperd and we are his sheep. I ain't anyone's livestock, screw that. The fact that he DIDN'T want us to eat from them, proves that he created us out of want. He wanted mindless worshippers to follow him around and do as he said. He has weaknesses that we don't know about, and he didn't want anyone else with knowledge and/or immortality. God is a tyrant. By definition, he is a tyrant. No one else makes decisions on anything. According to christianity, we're not even supposed to. We're supposed to let him control every aspect of our lives. This supports the mindless slaves theory. Remember Lucifer? Banished from "Heaven" for opposing god. Horrible. Remember what happened when humans started to oppose god? He killed them all! He flooded the earth! Stalin, Hitler, they killed their fair share of people. But god? He ended humanity altogether! Only one family survived! Tyrant! I saw something on South Park, thus partially negating it's relevence, where god killed off a man's family and livestock, destroyed his possesions, and gave him horrible sores across his entire body. Why? To prove to Lucifer that the poor guy would still worship him. He tortured a man to win a bet. I can't believe people worship this guy. This ALSO adds to the brainless worshipper section up there. Only an idiot would continue to like someone after he/she destroyed everything in his/her life. (Will continue later, I have other homework. Keep it up guys.)
Wizard Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 First off, God is an idiot.He's also lazy.
OverlordMondo Posted September 10, 2004 Author Posted September 10, 2004 First off, God is an idiot.He's also lazy. Defend yourself! Why do you say he's lazy? Need the info...
random guy Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 I saw something on South Park, thus partially negating it's relevence, where god killed off a man's family and livestock, destroyed his possesions, and gave him horrible sores across his entire body. Why? To prove to Lucifer that the poor guy would still worship him. He tortured a man to win a bet. I can't believe people worship this guy. This ALSO adds to the brainless worshipper section up there. Only an idiot would continue to like someone after he/she destroyed everything in his/her life. (Will continue later, I have other homework. Keep it up guys.)That's the proverb of Job. It's in the bible (or is it the torah?) But if God had that kind of hands-on action back then, why isn't he flooding the whole planet now! Lord knows there's enough violence and hate to piss off the Big Man, if he got so annoyed back then before we had nukes and chemical weapons, and the leader of the free world was torturing people in less fortunate countries..etc...
Wizard Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 He's like "meh." You do something bad, just say "forgive me god" then he goes back to playing chess with himself, or goes back to sleep.
L.S.D Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 I saw something on South Park, thus partially negating it's relevence, where god killed off a man's family and livestock, destroyed his possesions, and gave him horrible sores across his entire body. Why? To prove to Lucifer that the poor guy would still worship him. He tortured a man to win a bet. I can't believe people worship this guy. This ALSO adds to the brainless worshipper section up there. Only an idiot would continue to like someone after he/she destroyed everything in his/her life. (Will continue later, I have other homework. Keep it up guys.)That's the proverb of Job. It's in the bible (or is it the torah?) But if God had that kind of hands-on action back then, why isn't he flooding the whole planet now! Lord knows there's enough violence and hate to piss off the Big Man, if he got so annoyed back then before we had nukes and chemical weapons, and the leader of the free world was torturing people in less fortunate countries..etc... It's in both Torah and Bible. The Old testament is taken from Torah, I might say.Christianity is a borrowed religion, just like Islam. And K'Dash..."You do something bad, just say "forgive me god" then he goes back to playing chess with himself, or goes back to sleep. " The trick here is once you really repent, you musn't repeat the mistakes. Once you ask God for forgiveness, you must truly repent. But well, some don't....like me
OverlordMondo Posted September 10, 2004 Author Posted September 10, 2004 (edited) I saw something on South Park, thus partially negating it's relevence, where god killed off a man's family and livestock, destroyed his possesions, and gave him horrible sores across his entire body. Why? To prove to Lucifer that the poor guy would still worship him. He tortured a man to win a bet. I can't believe people worship this guy. This ALSO adds to the brainless worshipper section up there. Only an idiot would continue to like someone after he/she destroyed everything in his/her life. (Will continue later, I have other homework. Keep it up guys.)That's the proverb of Job. It's in the bible (or is it the torah?) But if God had that kind of hands-on action back then, why isn't he flooding the whole planet now! Lord knows there's enough violence and hate to piss off the Big Man, if he got so annoyed back then before we had nukes and chemical weapons, and the leader of the free world was torturing people in less fortunate countries..etc... Remember those weaknesses? If humans as a group worked together, I'm sure we could figure out what they are. He's scared is what it is, he's still hoping people will come to trust him so the world can live in peace and worship him. There are many flaws in christianity, I don't know what they are, and I will not point them out. For a prime example of humans overcoming god's tyranny, go play Xenogears. We humans constructed giant mechanized armor to battle god, and we won. God is not of unlimited power as he says he is. "If god can do anything, can he make a rock so heavy that it cannot be lifted?" Edited September 10, 2004 by LordKanti
Jjangthekid Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 (edited) I think that there's too much proof for evolution to not take it into serious consideration. I don't for instance, believe, as christian fundamentalists tend to, that God put dinosaurs hundreds of miles under the ground to confuse people. That's not the deity I believe in and seems quite counter-productive ("Hmm I know, the best way to make people believe in me is to provide lots of proof to negate the bible!).That doesn't mean that there isn't a spiritual presence in the universe, but I do think, given the turgid history of Christianity in particular, that it is time for a new, unified religion. The fact is that the bible has been re-written so many times (and was in fact written about 100 years after Jesus's death) that even if it was the direct words of God at one point, it sure as heck isn't any more. Therefore, there is no point quoting the bible as proof of, for example, creationism (there's no saying that you're not quoting one of the many altered passages).What we should do is take all the best parts from every religion, dump all the parts we know to be untrue or added in to appease the public (for instance, King James re-wrote the bible in 16-something or other to reinforce the notion that Kings and Queens had a divine right to rule), and create a new unified religion that has a wide enough banner to be accepted by everybody - that could be the way to world peace and tolerance. Edit: Sultan, that was a damn good point about pure-evolutionary theory removing man from the centre of the universe. That's no doubt why so many people are hesitant to believe in evolution, they don't want to give up their position as the chosen species.no man.you got it wrong..the bible hasn't been rewritten..its be translated over but not rewritten , there s difference.. (we = christians) im a christian and ill defend my viepoint.. we didnt' create God so that it'll justify our existence in this world, theres proof, the Bible its been wriiten by people who have been witnesses of God's love, anger,..etc.. even now there are people who feel God's presence, who have received God's miracle in their life and they come up and tell us...atheists/ other religious can't say how christianity is this and that because they never felt God's presence in their life..and thats what i believe... and to Mr.Gryph on this one.or to everyone thats on this forum thats not a christian.. You guys are saying your ancestors were tiny little protists ??? that were floating in water? and somehow through natural selection that little protist became a fish..than turned into a frog..than something that was able to live on land?? than became us??.. thats bogus..hahah..in my opinion... and one more thing.. i say science is unreliable..how many hypothesis do scientists make and later on finds out that its wrong..they do it over and over..and somehow they think they found the answer..but its still wrong.... i love these threads.. no flaming christians.!! [edit]: and one more thing. i just read Lorkanti's post above mine..and it says.. there are alot of flaws in christianity..and you said you dont know them..how bout if you find some flaws..and i'll explain it to ya..yea?>. hahah and God has unlimited power and he could make a rock that is unliftable...by humans but with him..he could do anything..hes omnipotent.. Edited September 10, 2004 by Jjangthekid
Wizard Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 Without breaking the barrier. Every cause, every thing, every event, has a mathmatical question and answer. With science, every thing that happens in this world can be explain scientiffically. This seperates the believers(of God or something like it) and non-believers(atheists or something like it). The theory of evolution is heavily supported because of it's eveidence.
Jjangthekid Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 The theory of evolution is heavily supported because of it's eveidence.and how many christians are there in this Earth that we are living in??....
Wizard Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 The theory of evolution is heavily supported because of it's eveidence.and how many christians are there in this Earth that we are living in??.... Dude, I was born a christian, but I've relinquished my fate in Christianity because I find it tiresome and controlling like Cuba. While I'm at it, I might be a buddhist for kicks, and I want some beads, a robe too.
OverlordMondo Posted September 10, 2004 Author Posted September 10, 2004 (edited) The theory of evolution is heavily supported because of it's eveidence.and how many christians are there in this Earth that we are living in??.... A crapload. And read my earlier post for things to defend yourself from. EDIT: Please do, and I'm not flaming you. Edited September 10, 2004 by LordKanti
random guy Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 The theory of evolution is heavily supported because of it's eveidence.and how many christians are there in this Earth that we are living in??.... And a good deal of them believe in evolution.
Jjangthekid Posted September 10, 2004 Posted September 10, 2004 The theory of evolution is heavily supported because of it's eveidence.and how many christians are there in this Earth that we are living in??.... Dude, I was born a christian, but I've relinquished my fate in Christianity because I find it tiresome and controlling like Cuba. While I'm at it, I might be a buddhist for kicks, and I want some beads, a robe too. what was so tiresome about it??.. and Lortkanti i know that your not flaming..im just saying..
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