Mr.X Posted April 23, 2004 Posted April 23, 2004 (edited) I have more, so don't silence me yet oh so ones of the none believers! (Crap, I'm sounding like a preacher.) I give you the Gnostic self-defeatism, which is; was Jesus = God? Whose covering heaven? Jesus isn't a god at all, he was just an educated man ; nothing more. False Gods = Death. Unbelief = Death. Wicca = Death. Incest = Death. Swinging = Death. Bestiality = Death. Spamming = Death (burnt by fire one would hope). Queer = Death. Adultery = Death. In fact, all those ugly immoral social acts don't bring directly Death, but they bring diseases or psychic/psychological troubles. 10 commandments is the best thing to respect coz they guide to common sense & teach to become responsible. Edited April 23, 2004 by Mr.X
StriderSkorpion Posted April 23, 2004 Posted April 23, 2004 In the Bible, the punishment for most/all of those acts is death. SwampThing, I agree about the change in God from Old to New Testament. That's probably the reason Gnostics believe that the Old and New Testament god's are completely different. They believe that the New Testament god is actually a woman.
Mr.X Posted April 23, 2004 Posted April 23, 2004 (edited) They believe that the New Testament god is actually a woman.OMFG ! G*d isn't a man or a woman ! In reality, G*d is everywhere (infinity) with an illimited knowledge. Edited April 23, 2004 by Mr.X
StriderSkorpion Posted April 23, 2004 Posted April 23, 2004 You mean unlimited. Anyways, God is seen as a male deity. There are a lot of references in the Bible that would lead one to believe that God is essentially male. Man was made in his image. Jesus was his son from Mary. The church is his bride. Etc. etc. They reference God in pronoun form usually as Him/His and similar. I don't believe in God myself, but when I did, it was taught that God was male. The Gnostics don't really exist anymore, except maybe as a revived "cult." Gnosticism is pretty strange as it practices mysticism. It started out from Judaism (sp?) and adopted Christian beliefs. It may have had something to do with Kaballa (sp?) originally, but I don't know.
Wizard Posted April 23, 2004 Author Posted April 23, 2004 It started out from Judaism (sp?) and adopted Christian beliefs. It may have had something to do with Kaballa (sp?) originally, but I don't know.That part I would somewhat believe. Even though I don't believe in religion and "god." Something was mentioned in my religion class a few years ago when were discussing what would God be like if he was "roaming." Ok, now save me the flames and extinguish it. You cannot stop someone elses opinion unless your like, the RIAA.
StriderSkorpion Posted April 23, 2004 Posted April 23, 2004 Hrm? No flames here. I personally don't claim any religion and am not an atheist (sp?) or agnostic. I don't mind people worshipping any deity as long as they don't try to impose their beliefs on others or persecute other that don't believe the way they do.
Gryph Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 They believe that the New Testament god is actually a woman.OMFG ! G*d isn't a man or a woman ! In reality, G*d is everywhere (infinity) with an illimited knowledge. Are you Jewish? I'm asking because you aren't fully saying God and that's how my Jewish friends do it. But X is right, IF there is a god, it's not a he or a she, its a...almighty being that transcends gender and sex.
OverlordMondo Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 I've transcended gender and sex.All hail the great LordKanti!
StriderSkorpion Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 (edited) I've transcended gender and sex.I bet you have. Technically, "god" could be any gender or genderless. There's no way of knowing whether or not, that is if (s)he/they exist(s). Most mythological deities and some current have a "gender orientation" as God did in the Bible (written by men, so go figure). Edited April 24, 2004 by StriderSkorpion
Mr.X Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 (edited) They believe that the New Testament god is actually a woman.OMFG ! G*d isn't a man or a woman ! In reality, G*d is everywhere (infinity) with an illimited knowledge. there is a god, it's not a he or a she, its a...almighty being that transcends gender and sex. Space around the Multi-verse where stars appear seems/is infinite => G*d. It's my deduction. Edited April 25, 2004 by Mr.X
Gryph Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 They believe that the New Testament god is actually a woman.OMFG ! G*d isn't a man or a woman ! In reality, G*d is everywhere (infinity) with an illimited knowledge. there is a god, it's not a he or a she, its a...almighty being that transcends gender and sex. Space around the Multi-Universe where stars appear seems/is infinite => G*d. It's my deduction. Why the hell did you misquote my post? If you're going to quote it, quote it properly. You didn't include the word IF which is the single most important word in that sentence. Well anyway, the infinite multiverse is greater than or equal to god? WTF...that means god isn't potentially the most powerful thing. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong.
Mr.X Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 Why the hell did you misquote my post? If you're going to quote it, quote it properly. You didn't include the word IF which is the single most important word in that sentence. Well anyway, the infinite multiverse is greater than or equal to god? WTF...that means god isn't potentially the most powerful thing. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong.Sorry about the quote. Personally, I think The infinite Multi-Universe is G*d, it's the same thing.
Gryph Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 Why the hell did you misquote my post? If you're going to quote it, quote it properly. You didn't include the word IF which is the single most important word in that sentence. Well anyway, the infinite multiverse is greater than or equal to god? WTF...that means god isn't potentially the most powerful thing. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong.Sorry about the quote. Personally, I think The infinite Multi-Universe is G*d, it's the same thing. Oh ok, I was just confused because you put >= which I thought of as greater than or equal to.
L.S.D Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 Regarding different God in Old Testaments and New Testaments: - God in Old Testaments and God in New Testaments IS the same. - People argue that God in Old Testaments is unforgiving and without mercy, and yet God ALWAYS forgives the Israelites and deliver them from their problems. Save them from Egypt, save them from the Phillistines etc etc This is a showcase of love and mercy. - God in New Testaments is all about love and forgiveness, and yet God DO punish people and show them His wrath. (Forget what happens, need to read up again :) Therefore, God in Old Testaments = God in New Testaments = Jesus Amen to that
Mr.X Posted April 24, 2004 Posted April 24, 2004 Therefore, God in Old Testaments = God in New Testaments = JesusNot equal to Jesus. Coz Jesus is simply a man.
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