Fatal Rose Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 Vega: because he is my favorite character and i am damn good with him.Guy: second favorite and i am also damn good with him.Fei long: fun to use but i am not as good with him as i am with the other chars.yea i know this is off topic but when CvS first came out for the dreamcast my friends would complane that when i use Vega it is unfair because he is the cheapest character in the game. they said his special and super moves were hard to counter and they can't block them. they also said some other stuff but i don't want to bore you guys to death so i just want to know if you agree with my friends and say Vega is cheap in that game?
arjay Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 depends who i am gonna play: beginners - sagat/kennormal players - sagat/ryuexperts - ryu/ken when i use ryu i can keep up with almost any gamer, because hes well rounded. i use sagat if i know i can dominate or somewhat control the tempo of the match. anyone who plays smart and fast will own me while i use sagat. i use ken to get on the offensive from the get go. if that dosent work out, hes fairly strong fast enough to keep up with better players. i never use akuma cause i always thought hes a huge cheeeeese. i use guy if i feeling bold.
Gryph Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 yea i know this is off topic but when CvS first came out for the dreamcast my friends would complane that when i use Vega it is unfair because he is the cheapest character in the game. they said his special and super moves were hard to counter and they can't block them. they also said some other stuff but i don't want to bore you guys to death so i just want to know if you agree with my friends and say Vega is cheap in that game?Hey man, don't worry if people say your cheap with certain characters. flock 'em. They're just complaining because they lost.
ForceX Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 Vega: because he is my favorite character and i am damn good with him.Guy: second favorite and i am also damn good with him.Fei long: fun to use but i am not as good with him as i am with the other chars.yea i know this is off topic but when CvS first came out for the dreamcast my friends would complane that when i use Vega it is unfair because he is the cheapest character in the game. they said his special and super moves were hard to counter and they can't block them. they also said some other stuff but i don't want to bore you guys to death so i just want to know if you agree with my friends and say Vega is cheap in that game?Either your friends suck at CvS or your just too good......Vega's moves are difficult to counter but its not impossible.
cosmic_lord Posted February 14, 2004 Author Posted February 14, 2004 Well... Dan's moves actually aren't weakass. If you actually hit someone with Dan's fireball (which is easy to do in a combo) it does between 1.5 and 2 times as much damage as Ryu's. Ow. I never really compared his other moves... but I do win most of my matches with Dan. He's not a weakass like everyone thinks, but it's still shameful to lose for him because of the way he conducts himself... i.e. crying a lot. I never played CvS... but on most games, Vega isn't cheap... he normally sucks. he was good on EX2 Plus though. I don't know who said Vega's moves are hard to counter... your friends must royally blow. But you don't need to take that "they're just mad because they lost" attitude. Rarely in a game are any characters cheap... really the only instance I can think of was Epyon in Gundam Wing: Endless Duel... because button mashers could do any of his combos at random, and also his super move would completely refill his power meter even if the opponent blocked it, and it was fast and could be done in midair, and was homing. Really Wolverine would make a case for it in the Marvel Games, but those games are made for button mashers anyway so they don't count . Cheap players are abundant though. I consider button mashers cheap, even though they suck. Really one thing that I do consider cheap as all hell is doing the same thing over and over. I mean, at least when someone does a fireball barrage with Sagat, they alternate between low and high... I'm talking about someone who does the exact same move over and over and over and over... and it's usually a good move that has high priority and such. Really the only kind of cheapness that ever nearly got the best of me was this Akuma player. No, I don't think Akuma's cheap. I think he's fun to use... and he's fair because his defense is jack crap and he's slow compared to Ryu, much less Ken. Anyway, I was Zangief, and the guy just kept teleporting away from me over and over until the time ran down, after getting a health advantage early on. I finally just started doing clotheslines to built up super, because unless i moved toward him he wouldn't do anything... and did a short hop forward, then a big jump backward and snagged him with the level 3 Final Atomic Buster. Muahahaha... Zangief rules lol.
Cominus Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 I forgot about ryo even though he's a sf player but he's sort of like one in cvs and i think a cheap fighter is sagat because of his fire ball which he can throw high and low and if you jump in high of low he can catch you with a quick knee or powerful uppercut.
Wizard Posted February 14, 2004 Posted February 14, 2004 Ryu when I'm boredGouki when I want to piss off somebodyCammy/Ibuki when I want the speed + piss somebody
cosmic_lord Posted February 15, 2004 Author Posted February 15, 2004 I forgot about ryo even though he's a sf player but he's sort of like one in cvs and i think a cheap fighter is sagat because of his fire ball which he can throw high and low and if you jump in high of low he can catch you with a quick knee or powerful uppercut.Sagat's not cheap... you just have to use the fact that he's a malungian against him. At mid range, you can beat Sagat. At close range, you can beat him but he still has an advantage because of his malungian-ness... (long lanky legs and such.) He's slow because of that, and you can use it against him. Anyway, obviously long range is a bad idea because of his tiger shots. Anyway, Sagat is not at all cheap. He's a true veteran's character like Ryu and Ken. Very difficult to master. But he's not hard to beat, you just have to go about it right. Although if he's in the hands of a true master, you're owned. Period
kaioshade Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 Karin, Sakura Before that, i mainly played chin li and then cammy. Cant stand the shotoscrubs. (sorry if that offends anyone)
Gryph Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 Cant stand the shotoscrubs. (sorry if that offends anyone)If anyone is actually offended by you dissing video game characters, they should be shot.
cosmic_lord Posted February 15, 2004 Author Posted February 15, 2004 I'm not offended by that, but you can't call the Shotokan Karate fighters scrubs. Scrubs are people that like Marvel vs. Capcom 2 more than any game in the world
Gryph Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 Speaking of Scrubs, that show sucks! Umm...that's it.
kaioshade Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 Ugh, I hate marvel vs capcom 2 even more. I have actually built my tactics around shotokan chars. Ive seen way too many people wwho try to hadoken/shoryuken all the time. which is why in alpha 3 i learned karin (counters) and third strike i learned to parry.
cosmic_lord Posted February 15, 2004 Author Posted February 15, 2004 Ugh, I hate marvel vs capcom 2 even more. I have actually built my tactics around shotokan chars. Ive seen way too many people wwho try to hadoken/shoryuken all the time. which is why in alpha 3 i learned karin (counters) and third strike i learned to parry.Well, everyone's predictable to an extent. Sure, you always expect Ryu to be a fireballer and Ken to be a Dragon puncher. They both still own all pretty much. That's why in so many games you see the repeated fireball and uppercut patterns, like the original Kyo or Iori, or Ryo or Takuma, or to a lesser extent Terry or Rock.
kaioshade Posted February 15, 2004 Posted February 15, 2004 True. I try to use characters that do not follow those patterns. Karin, King, Makoto, etc. Most of the chars i use are more hand to hand oriented than projectile (king being the exception)
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