CoinOps reignite showcase < compatible? > Final Burn Legends

[BritneysPAIRS]

CoinOps reignite showcase < compatible? > Final Burn Legends = coinops supports 1000s more unique games and isnt not the same set as FBL compatibility wise

 

commenting from my point of view its a very easy question to answer with greater acruracy than what ive seen....on this thread and it involved stuff I know alot more about than some that commented

it only happens in CoinOPS related stuff when a few people are around...cba neil and Iceman if they stayed out as asked many times by many members it would be fine and support threads for coinops would be open....but they are chilish just read the closed threads and its easy to see they dont talk any facts just talk rubbish and fill the threads with misinformation so others have to ask here..... and still they come with misinformation but its more than noted

http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php...t=0&start=0

this is the reason support threads are closed and have been closed on all others....should be easy to see why

 

most coinops people involved properly do this via MSN now and you can read the comments to why .... MSN for me works well and alot happens.....im out unless theres a diff question...simple answer above...

 

PM me if you want to know stuff about CoinOPS ill be glad to help you with your questions across all emulators really

[cba.gy]

The simple answer ad20 is, use both but for different reasons.

Build rom sets for both and test them yourself, you will find each emulator

supports slightly different sets with differing results.

 

This way you can be the judge of what "you" like and not have someone

else tell you what "you" like.

[The-Ice-Man]

What a load of bullshit from you, as usual Britney. Nothing I've said here is 'misinformation'. And now you're trying to tell us to stay out of other people's threads as well as your own? Fuck off. You don't own this forum. Welcome to 1emulation ad20, this is the shit you get around here.

[ad20]

Okay, thanks for the information, i think i've got a slight clue about the differences now.

 

As for some questions which have arosen within this thread:

 

- I only want to run emulators on my xbox, not on the PC

- I will run all games in 480i, HD is a neat feature but my TV ain't up to date yet...

- my xbox has only 64MB, so later games might show slowdowns regardless of the used emu, but I'm fine with that

 

 

There are truly not many roms I intent to play, overall summed up just these: (if I'm not mistaken with the platforms)

 

 

- Metal Slug series (NeoGeo)

- Samurai Showdown series (NeoGeo)

- Art of Fighting series (NeoGeo)

- King of Fighters series (NeoGeo)

- Marvel vs Capcom series (NeoGeo?)

- SNK vs Capcom series (NeoGeo?)

 

- 19XX series (MAME)

- R-Type series (MAME)

- DonPachi / DoDonPachi (MAME?)

- Ghosts n Ghoblins / Ghouls n Ghosts (MAME)

- ESP Ra De (MAME)

- Black Tiger (MAME)

- Double Dragon series (MAME)

- Raiden series (MAME)

 

 

That's it.

If all these games would run in FBL, i would be content. If not, most of them should be used with FBL and the rest with CoinOps.

 

As The-Ice-Man mentioned, FBL-roms are much newer than CoinOps-roms. When I search for roms, i use Google and get provided with dozens of rom-sites. How do distinguish newer roms from older ones or otherwise said, how do I detect if a rom will run properly in FBL?

[NEIL222]

lol. Same old stuff again....use both emus for different games, then you get the best of both worlds.

FBL has the best CPS1, CPS2, Neo Geo emulation accuracy.

[The-Ice-Man]

Final Burn will play all of the games you listed except for R-Type 1+2 (Although I don't know why, it easily could), and the Raiden Fighters games. The original Raiden will play in Final burn though. As for CoinOps, at last check it will play all of those including R-Type 1+2, as well as the original Raiden and Raiden Fighters 2, but not Raiden Fighters 1, or Raiden Fighters Jet. This may have changed with the newest version, I don't know. If you don't care about your emulation accuracy, CoinOps will be your better choice, although some of the CPS2 games will stutter. This will aparantly be fixed when the next version comes out, as it will use the Final Burn core. So technically, you'd be using Final Burn in that scenario anyway.

 

For getting a new romset, the easiest thing to do is just type 'MAME 0.136 Roms' into a torrent search site. You'll easily find a full set, which is around 23GB. If you only want to download the ones you want though, which will be much quicker considering the small list, just make sure the romsite you use is offering v0.136 roms for download. I could point to one I know that does, but it's against forum rules.

 

One more thing, you mention the SNK vs Capcom series. SNK vs Capcom - SVC Chaos is for the NeoGeo, and will play in both emulators. There are also a couple of Capcom vs SNK games, which are different, and not playable on either emulator as they were on the Sega NAOMI hardware, which the Xbox isn't powerful enough to emulate. Same goes for Marvel vs Capcom. Marvel vs Capcom will work, but Marvel vs Capcom 2 will not, as it again was on the NAOMI.

[fumanchu]

for all the games listed you can indeed use final burn legends or coinops reignite.

raiden 2 and raiden dx are not emulated on mame for xbox and it still is not emulated on mame for pc properly.to play arade perfect ports of these 2 games download the ps1 versions and use pcsxboxv20.

also marvel vs capcom 2 was ported to the xbox as a retail game along with capcom vs snk2 and are very easy to get a hold of.

[BritneysPAIRS]

black tiger will crash in FBL and is unplayable as well as black dragon and clones..also espraid has slow down unless over clocked....to add to the missing games which there is Raiden Fighter 2000...Raiden....R-Type 1, R-Type 2, R-Type Leo...R-Type 3rd lighting and Super R-Type supported in CoinOPS....your missing some other great shumps though...fumanchu can help you there...there are some great ones as good as raiden..like Samurai Aces, Boogie Wings, Cyvern, skull fang, vassara 1 and vassara 2 and many more later good ones try them you will be surprised

 

also FBL seems to miss the hacks like samsho and kof and last blade boss edtions....kof2004...hacks these are in your cat of games but are botlegs or hacks so you may not want them

 

Just for your info do what you like....check this and you may see what they tell you falls short of the full story...im sick of explaining the issues I see clear as day I see other people are noticing this stuff around now so it is what it is.....there is a reasons why I was added as staff, trust me enough to check it out.....

 

all the neo geo stuff you said runs smooth as in all res in CoinOPS....60 solid frames a sec no issues at all...I play them alot and cant tell the diff between CoinOPS and FBL or FBA neogeo wise....id love to actually know how they differ on screen....they only seem to change board layout stuff and remove speed hacks and not actually improve real world playablity or look...ive played nearly all those games to the end with no known issues anywhere ive seen or heard...if there where diff in CPS2 or NeoGeo I would have changed to them the day I recieved the patches but I didnt want to change everyones roms for no real world differences

 

There are benifits to FBL for sure ... filters ... cps2 is smoother.... 1080i if you want any of those features then it will do the games better that it does support....

 

"I dont beleive it they say...ummmm I say check it out brother " there prob more thats just the reported ones

[ad20]

thx for all your help so far, i've somehow managed to get this whole FBL CoinOps mess to work:

 

FBL and CoinOps have the same rom-folder as well the same xmv-folder. All my games are listed in the FBL favourites except R-Type, Black Tiger, Radein and ESP Ra De, they are in the CoinOps favs.

 

As for Raiden, it's a pity no other version except the first one can't run on xbox yet.

 

 

@ The-Ice-Man

 

thx for the hint to look for MAME 0.136 Roms, they all run smoothly.

 

@ CoinOPS COMBUSTION

 

i'm really into side-scrolling shooters, which ones can you recommend me as well?

[fumanchu]

a guy who has the same taste in games as me..

recommended side-scrolling shmups.

neogeo

pulstar

last resort

blasing star

ironclad(oh yes)

 

arcdade shooters

gradius

gradius 2 aka vulan venture

gradius 3

pardodius

sexy parodius

gikkyou parodius(something like that)

parodius da

rtype

rtype 2

salamander

salamander2

cotton

zero wing

hellfire

eco fighters

forgotten worlds

raiden fighters 2(2000)

 

take a look here for more arcade shooters.

http://www.shmups.com/xenocidefiles/arcade.html

 

vert shooters

also do not forget to try the raizing/8ing shooters.

baatle garrega

battle bakraid

armed poice batrider

dimahoo(released by capcom)

mahou daisakusen

great mahou daisakusen

 

oher cave shooters

guwange

esp rade

donpachi

dodonpachi

dangun feveron

air gallet(not by cave but released on the same cave arcade hardware)

mazinger-z

 

toaplan

truxton/tatsujin

truxton 2 (brilliant)

zero wing

hellfire

batsugun

batsugun special version

 

capcom

1941

1944

19xx war against destiny

forgotten worlds

eco fighters

dimahoo

 

psyckio

strikers 1945 plus(neogeo arcade hardware)

gunbird

gunbird2

strikers 1945

strikers 1945 2

strikers 1945 3

dragon blaze

sol divide

space bomber

sengoku ace

tengai

[ad20]

Side-scrollers are the shit, cool compilation man.

The only way to port Raiden to the xbox is by a psx-iso, ain't it?

One last request, i've got a liking to those preview vids playing in the background but those xmv are ass-difficult to find, i've got one torrent but it's as slow as rare.

Any hints where to find such xmvs? Dunno if they violate the forum rules.

[fumanchu]

Side-scrollers are the shit, cool compilation man.

The only way to port Raiden to the xbox is by a psx-iso, ain't it?

One last request, i've got a liking to those preview vids playing in the background but those xmv are ass-difficult to find, i've got one torrent but it's as slow as rare.

Any hints where to find such xmvs? Dunno if they violate the forum rules.

yeah the only way to play raiden 2 and raiden dx is on pcsxbox and they are arcade perfect ports.(check your pm).

there are the xmv files that dam-soft uploaded for coinops reignite,do you want links for that??

[fumanchu]

forgot to add a20 that if you are a big fan of shooters then check out the pc engine/turbographx/pc engine cd emulator medafenxpce v4 as that is THE system for shmups.

[ad20]

whoa, that's really quite old. man

thx for the offer but the oldest system i actively play are those arcade ones i think

 

on my xbox, i have currently following systems:

 

MAME via CoinOps

 

NeoGeoOps via Final Burn Legends

 

NES via Madnafe-NES

 

SNES via sNESxbox or how it's called

 

Sega Megadrive via neoGenesis

 

Play-Station1 via pcsxbox

 

n64 via surreal64

 

and the xbox originals

 

that's all system i'm familiar with, older ones might give the kick to real hardcore nostalgia-fans but i'm fine with the late 80s and 90s generally

 

i've already made great success with your help regarding FBL and coinops, so any side scrolling shooter you can recommend me for those systems is much appreciated

[Enkak]

Erm, Turbographx/PC-Engine is no older than SNES or Genesis/Megadrive, it's another great machine/console of the 16bit days, home of some of the best shmups ever made, even more if you look for the CD version of some, like Lords of Thunder and others. Also, has many great arcade conversions too.

 

Well worth the time to explore it.