Gryph Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 but in the short run (i.e. about the next 6-8 months) will not having dx10 really mean anything? I mean the new games coming out that are dx10 games also support dx9 ...Yeah, in the short run it's fine. And if the majority of people are still on DX9 in the long term, game developers will have no choice but to support DX9 too. They'd rather appeal to a broader customer base than appeal to Microsoft (which MS does not like of course). I doubt we'll see DX10 ONLY games for quite a while but plenty of games that have DX10 as an addition either by inclusion at release or patch. It just seems like MS released an OS that's not that great or important to upgrade to.
Weirdy Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 Someday, the only OS's with the most freedom will be BSD's, Gentoo, and Debian.
Gryph Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 I wish I had the time, focus, discipline, and reason to learn any form of BSD or Linux.
Haldrie Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 All Bill Gates wants to do is keep his patent on Windows that's the only reason he's made Vista. I say burn him at the stake for all the crap he's put us through. We have the right to make copies and to use the software that we spend our hard earned money for and he's helping to take those rights away while still being a greedy sob and keeping all the real profits for himself.
Wizard Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 I wish I had the time, focus, discipline, and reason to learn any form of BSD or Linux.Yeah me too. Anyways, if they took the postive new security features and implmented them into XP, life would be grand.
Shibathedog Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 yeah game have been backwards compatible with older DX hardware for a long time now. HL2 goes back all the way to DX 7 i think, and UT2k4 i heard recently was 7 too, but i think thats wrong and its actually 8.
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 Personally I wouldn't upgrade to Vista from a gaming point of view. And I'm not that radical to simply ditch it and switch to consoles only. I'm pretty sure things will quiet down, supers-trimmed versions of Vista will start surfacing with all its advantages and none of its drawbacks, a DX10 version for XP will surface and we'll all be laughing at Micro$oft's incompetence.
Shibathedog Posted February 9, 2007 Posted February 9, 2007 yeah from the very start i know someone will get DX10 on vista, its software, software can be screwed with pretty easily. It might have to use some weird emulation crap to run on XP, but with all the other crap slowing down Vista it probably wont make that much of a difference.
CJ Jackson Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 I heard WINEHQ are working on a DX10 wrapper for Windows XP, which I think is good news for users that don't want to switch Vista. Personally I'm more of a worker then a heavy gamer, I like playing new games but there always a downside, the costs of the games $$$, the space it takes up these days and of course the costs of upgrades $$$. I might start an blog article called "Musician, you do not need Vista." What would you rather do? Play on Games or write them.
Gryph Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 I'd love to make games but I have no artistic or programming skills.
gymnist1026 Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 I wish I had the time, focus, discipline, and reason to learn any form of BSD or Linux. Ubuntu isnt that hard to learn. There is alot of support on it online and everything has some instructions to installing somewhere. It was the first distro i went into and i liked it. Its like windows (with the some of the menus and commands) but it is alot better...
ken_cinder Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 DX10 on XP? Not fully, that's for sure...even less with this so called "wrapper". Anyone who has read any articles regarding DX10, knows there is NO legacy support in hardware. All pre-DX10 hardware will run through a software layer. BLECH!Given how "slow" Vista is in the first place, expect something like an ATi X800 to run like a Radeon 8500....
Weirdy Posted February 10, 2007 Posted February 10, 2007 I wish I had the time, focus, discipline, and reason to learn any form of BSD or Linux. Ubuntu isnt that hard to learn. There is alot of support on it online and everything has some instructions to installing somewhere. It was the first distro i went into and i liked it. Its like windows (with the some of the menus and commands) but it is alot better...I think that SuSe (and perhaps open SuSe) is the most windows-like since it tries to do everything with a gui (that's the impression that it gave me when I tried it). I personally like Ubuntu because I find that there is a fair balance of gui and command line usage. The only thing that I do not like about Ubuntu is the bloat: PDI apps, server, and bluetooth apps that I will not be using; don't even get me started on the kernel (it's as if everything is enabled). However, with its support and popularity I doubt that it will remain free (as in price) by the end of the year. Based on my experience, you need focus, time, and discipline in order to install more advanced distro's like Gentoo. I'm actually installing Gentoo into a separate partition from a chroot-ed environment with Ubuntu. Freakin' GNOME takes forever to emerge even with the USE flags that I've set, but I'm glad that my gentoo install will not be as bloated as my Ubuntu install.
CJ Jackson Posted February 11, 2007 Posted February 11, 2007 I just give PC-BSD a try, installing software on PC-BSD is pretty much like installing software on Windows really. PC-BSD uses the install wizard called pbi (PC-BSD Installer) which is similar to installshield on Windows. Also PC-BSD looked kind-of-like Vista as the default style. What I like about PC-BSD is that it is not as bloated as Ubuntu, even OpenOffice and Firefox was not included. PC-BSD can natively run Linux applications, just like FreeBSD. As for FreeBSD itself, is what weirdy said about Gentoo really.
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