Thanks man, but that's not precisely correct. I've actually done a few different jobs at that company. I actually started off as a train driver, before moving to IT in 1986. Back then we had these enormous main frames that took up more space than your entire house. The mainframe was slow and crashed at least once a day. I've seen the progression to LANs, Networks, PC's, and servers. So I've been in IT a long time. However the corporate world lags behind the home user in terms of faster pcs, and newer software. Also things like forums, chats, torrents, IRC, cracks, etc are unknown. These are things I'm trying to learn about. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OMG you are a piece of history Rob well anyway when it comes to computers you still know more than we do i guess, hey just wondering, did you ever get to use those cards with holes like the first computers had? BTW which is your main duty, hardware or software related?