Capcom Vs. Snk 2 Is Now Playable In Pc!

[taratata]

This game is illegal!!! It has been in the rules that releasing mugen creations with no permission from the authors is illegal. That screenpack was made by Dr4ch1R'z who has been gone in the mugen scene for years now. The person who made this couldn't possibly contact him and the other creators as well. I just want to tell everyone not to support this since it's an illegal file and should not be shared to the public either.

Illegal???

Makes me wonder... how legal is it to rip a sprite from a copyrighted game and to redistribute it? I'm pretty sure Capcom never gave them permission to use their sprites in the first place.

That may lack politeness, may be mean, but don't say it's illegal.

It would be illegal anyway, even if the guys who made this gave their permission.

[Mgbenz]

What I meant was it is not allowed for someone to use others creations as his own.

[Wizard]

Thats like saying "You [mugen] guys can't use our([insert company here] creations."

[Skythe]

I think Mgbenz is trying to say it's disrespectful. I can understand it if someone claimed the whole thing their own but they didn't do a damn thing, but on the other hand Mgbenz hasn't really given much proof except that the supposed person who did this can be the only person to do this. Which is stupid thinking.

[Climhazzard]

Think of it as a comparison.

The sprite rippers have to rip from the game MvC2, which is extremely difficult and lengthy. And then they have to clean up the sprites, compile them, then program the character which is also lengthy.

Then someone like this goes on a website downloads it, sticks it in a game, and takes full credit for it.

 

Those who create the characters don't take credit for the sprite creation, but they do take credit for the ripping of the sprites and the programming.

 

Makes me wonder... how legal is it to rip a sprite from a copyrighted game and to redistribute it?

 

Don't assume all there is to a character is simple sprite ripping. It's much more than that.

 

This has come up many times in the MUGEN community, and as I recall there was an e-mail sent to capcom that wasn't replied to.

 

On a side note, I fuk'n hate angelfire. (forgot to change my avatar here)

Edited July 10, 2004 by Climhazzard

[The TeamPlayer]

Here are the answers to most of the ethics mugen follows.

http://www.mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?...y;threadid=6730

 

This has come up many times in the MUGEN community, and as I recall there was an e-mail sent to capcom that wasn't replied to.

Capcom replied.

SNK never did.

 

Only one company has ever said they did not want mugen conversions of there characters and that was the company theat made Queen of Hearts. They only told creators not to create from that game. Thus they are not allowed at The Mugen Guild forum.

[Skythe]

I remember a time when I did a sprite edit and someone said if they could take that and use as their own. I of course said no unless I'm given credit. Then one of the admins said that if I make something and show it then anybody has the right to take it as their own.

 

I've despised and shortly left the site afterwards.

Edited July 11, 2004 by Skythe

[The TeamPlayer]

All my edits are free to be used and so are my rips. But I surely understand why someone would not want there time simply stolen like that.

 

I always ask and give credit before I use something someone else took time to show.

[Climhazzard]

Here are the answers to most of the ethics mugen follows.

http://www.mugenguild.com/forum/index.php?...y;threadid=6730

 

This has come up many times in the MUGEN community, and as I recall there was an e-mail sent to capcom that wasn't replied to.

Capcom replied.

SNK never did.

 

Only one company has ever said they did not want mugen conversions of there characters and that was the company theat made Queen of Hearts. They only told creators not to create from that game. Thus they are not allowed at The Mugen Guild forum.

The hell?

 

I should really start reading those threads more thoroughly.

Man, you never cease to prove your seniority and knowledge of the community TDS.

Don't tell him I said this, but you should have loona's place.

[Skythe]

All my edits are free to be used and so are my rips. But I surely understand why someone would not want there time simply stolen like that.

 

I always ask and give credit before I use something someone else took time to show.

When I said "used as their own" I was trying to say that they wanted to use my creation and say that they made it. Then the admin said that anyone can freely do that all they want.

[Gryph]

All my edits are free to be used and so are my rips. But I surely understand why someone would not want there time simply stolen like that.

 

I always ask and give credit before I use something someone else took time to show.

When I said "used as their own" I was trying to say that they wanted to use my creation and say that they made it. Then the admin said that anyone can freely do that all they want.

Wow...such lack of ethics.

[Climhazzard]

All my edits are free to be used and so are my rips. But I surely understand why someone would not want there time simply stolen like that.

 

I always ask and give credit before I use something someone else took time to show.

When I said "used as their own" I was trying to say that they wanted to use my creation and say that they made it. Then the admin said that anyone can freely do that all they want.

Which site was this?

[Skythe]

www.crescentisland.com

 

The site is boring since it's taking the people far too long to make the new version of the game.

[taratata]

Makes me wonder... how legal is it to rip a sprite from a copyrighted game and to redistribute it?

 

Don't assume all there is to a character is simple sprite ripping. It's much more than that.

I never said character creation was something easy, I don't know anything about it and I think it must be pretty hard (or at least time-consuming).

The only thing I said is it's stupid to call "illegal" taking credit for something illegal from the start. It's like saying it's illegal to steal your neighbour's cocaïne.

And about these emails... Unless there is written permission (which would really surprise me) distributing copyrighted material is illegal, reply or not.

 

There's a little something that bothers me with this kind of credits, the same as with the ripping teams credits. Sure, they do a (sometimes) great, long and tiresome job, but all the really creative part is done by someone else. The real credits should go to the people that made the game or the movie in the first place (here, Capcom). If you want credit so bad, just do your own characters, game or movie. You'll see you'll get much more credit (if you did a good creation, of course).

 

PS: Ooops, I forgot something. Before it slips out of control, this is my opinion. No need to say it's not the only one possible

Edited July 11, 2004 by taratata

[The TeamPlayer]

And about these emails... Unless there is written permission (which would really surprise me) distributing copyrighted material is illegal, reply or not.

 

This is not illegal. It is Fan Art. Just like the wallpapers that are made.

 

And the term illegal for this game is incorrect as well. I think he meant it was illegal regarding mugen ethics and the rules of this board

 

There's a little something that bothers me with this kind of credits, the same as with the ripping teams credits. Sure, they do a (sometimes) great, long and tiresome job, but all the really creative part is done by someone else. The real credits should go to the people that made the game or the movie in the first place (here, Capcom). If you want credit so bad, just do your own characters, game or movie. You'll see you'll get much more credit (if you did a good creation, of course).

I have never known any mugen creator that did not credit the company they were ripping from. And also that company gets paid for the work. The creator gets nothing for his time. Is it too hard to respect the fact he wanted to share the work? With your logic I can take credit for the Wallpapers in the art section of this forum because most of the work is already done before they are made.

 

That would be really disrespectful to the person that took the time to make and share it would it not?

 

Now there are some people like me that think kinda the same way you do. If I make something I want it to be enjoyed by anyone and everyone. I create for myself for my own enjoyment thus I do not care if someone takes works I have made that took me months to make. You can even say you made it yourself it does not effect me. Although I would think someone that would actually do that would be quite low.

 

Out of respect to the individuals that take there time to do this it is not a big deal to ask for permission and credit that person.

 

There are not many laws on the net for fanart usually if anyone shows something that they make they risk it being stolen. But these ethics are to try to teach people how to respect different cultures and mindsets. Not everyone thinks like me and I respect there wishes. As I hope others will.