i dont know about you guys

[GLiTcH]

posting crap at XS about running banned games on fbax or kawax is just patchetic. the one i just saw got Lantus pissed off.. Its also posted at his site.. if you got games working dont go n show them off... i for one dont want fbax to be discontinued..

 

I'm not blaming anybody here(except for those flockers that posted this).. but you have to be smarter that... dont go acting like a 10 yr with a new toy showing it off to his friend..

 

*counts to 10*

[nagmine]

yeah i saw the post to. Pissed me off

[N3oGhost]

Here here!!!

 

that was lame

[Prican25]

i argee, some ass posted about a google search of kawa-hex and now the mod there knows i'm sending it out.

 

i don't care what he thinks cuz its gonna happen one way or another.

[shadowjin]

um....is it me or is the entire xbox-scene.com community a bunch of hypocrits?

 

i used to post there regularly, and i just got tired of their "i'm holier than thou" attitude and tiptoe around the subject motif.

 

flock it....if you're gonna make an emulator for the xbox, release the source...least give us something to flock around with.

 

xbox emulation is all about exploring...nuff said.

 

if you don't want people to have the source, you shouldn't have stolen code to write your program...

 

and any joe schmoe who says "but i have XDK" is bullshitting me and needs to get thrown in jail. bleh.

 

*whole subject makes shadowjin very angry - goes to play more games and be poor*

 

-jin

 

 

ps - hacked bioses using MS's code isn't any worse than running KoF2k3 on an xbox emulator. said and done.

Edited February 19, 2004 by shadowjin

[nagmine]

i dont get why they seem fine with playing gba games that are just released... yet get pissed about arcade games?

[kaioshade]

I do believe the whole thing is a bit hypocritical, but i have tried to somewhat honor the authors wishes. i will use a emu that plays all games, but i wont go announcing it right in their faces. its a little bit about respect.

[Prican25]

i just made a topic on x-s about this whole bs, any willing to give any good points about this are more then welcome to answer

Edited February 19, 2004 by Prican25

[N3oGhost]

so basically you went to another country starting crap?

 

lol not good.

 

X-S is known to be a Nazi-Style forum and everyone knows it. THe fact is that the people that MAKE stuff and DEVELOP have shared their views about this. Its best to keep to ourselves and appreciate new developments in the scene.

 

Kawa-X development to me is dead.

 

BUt FBAX has just begun........we shouldnt crap on it by posting in forums that the developers clearly hang out and are active in talkin about all the stuff thats goin on in the undergound.

 

Lots of valid arguments but really theres nothing to argue about.

 

Unless someone here can convert new PC sources to XBOX for FBA, we kinda need the fbax team to keep supporting fba.

[kaioshade]

I look at it in the same vein as mame.

 

The source is there, you can add support for whatever you want, but dont go around (at least publically) distributing it

 

I imagine the same idea was instilled into fbax. so recompile it all you want, just dont advertise it.

[GLiTcH]

i just made a topic on x-s about this whole bs, any willing to give any good points about this are more then welcome to answer

.... if i remember correctly Lantus posted that he locked newer games cause fba pc fallows the same rule as mame,kawaks... yes, we know there are loaders for kawaks n you can compile your own mame... n if he saw games running on it by ppl posting pics he was gona cancel it.. all i'm saying is I'm looking forward for fbax b5, Psikyo n the open source.. to add the games again...

i don't see ppl adding drivers to xba to play the Famicom Mini Vol games .. if the author of vba added them then its not our problem that we play the newer games.. on xba..

 

 

 

Also quote from TMaul

Posting things like this is not funny. As FBAx is open source we kind of expect people who are stupid enough to enjoy pirating the latest neogeo software to build thier own versions with thier own knowledge. Posting things like this will affect any future public releases of FBAx.

 

Also any websites hosting any hacked or complied verions of FBAx that can play any neogeo game that wasn't enabled in the last public release would be wise to remove them asap.

[shadowjin]

um....

 

i do wish to honor the creator's requests, but let's look at the whole picture. Emulators in the first place walk on a fine line of legality. While they are built to "emulate" said games, they don't in fact include those games.

 

It's along the same lines as PS2 modchips. They, Sony, argue they are used to play bootlegs etc etc. Some respectable users like myself, use a modchip mainly to play imports (surprise, i'm not too big on bootlegs...lol) The code in a modchip merely circumvents the copyright protection. Aren't emulators doing the same? Yes, they are.

 

Now we come down to the files. Most games can run by themselves, but some code had to be constructed to circumvent their copy protection and play them on a pc/xbox. The NeoGeo games go even a bit farther into dark territory as you need a bios, or LICENSED snkp code, to run the games in the first place.

 

Emulator Author's responses to that is "Don't ask us where to get it" as if they can completely wash their hands of the whole ordeal. That's like selling someone the parts to a silenced automatic pistol and telling them "I don't know where to get the instructions on putting it together - oh and please don't shoot anyone if you manage to build it."

 

While that's not the best analogy, you can easily see where i'm coming from.

 

If you're going to create an emulator, KNOW that it will be hacked and always reconfirm that the hacked version is NOT a supported release. Don't go pissin fire saying you're not going to keep working on it because if it's really an issue, you should have never made it in the first place.

 

This especially goes for xbox since the emulator authors are using stolen MS code to write their programs. Stop your bellyaching and just do your crap. Damn.

 

again - don't go publically annoucing you've got a hacked fbax that runs kof2k3....ie don't go pissing flames.

 

let's move on...bleh.

 

-jin

[lancerx]

shadowjin you got a good point in your post, especially with using the hacked code of MS. For what i have heard is that lantus or whatever his name is wanted some games tb respected, games from two years old to now.

[shadowjin]

yeah, that's standard emulator author practice...heh

 

i'm just sayin don't stop workin on your stuff because there are a few talented people who can hack it.

 

like the whole razoola thing and kof2k3 that turned out to be a "hoax." (i seriously think they were bluffing, but we'll leave that subject alone.)

 

there will always be hackers and rom dumpers....nuff said...heh

 

-jin

[lancerx]

i have been reading Prica24/25´s post, and i got this from neocover:

 

its all about the authors wishes. for example - Forgotten doesnt seem to mind that gba rom scene can play the most up to date roms. If he did then it would be a different issue. the FBA authors told us that we have their blessing in porting FBA to the xbox as long as we respect their wishes - which includes no 2002+ drivers. As FBAx continues to be developed we will continue respecting this.

 

so today, some moron posted a link to a hacked kof2003 fbax xbe, then some other idiot posted the driver source on lantus-x.com. problem #1 - linking to xbe's and #2 linking to xbe's that are against the authors wishes.

 

tell me why myself and TMaul shouldn't be upset by it? Idiots who ask about getting mslug5 working for example deserve their thread locked. Our (the authors) wishes are that you do not do this. I personally dont mind if you recompile the FBAx source - which is why we offer it to you, but i do have an issue when you start linking to hacked binaries and/or show off screenshots of roms that were never meant to be played.

 

do it in your own home.

 

In my opinion we should all respect the author wishes but if that the case then we all should respect MS´s and Sony´s wishes then non of us would be here and x-s won´t exist because what they are is motivating people to use hacked softws.

Edited February 19, 2004 by lancerx