Mega Man (?) Posted April 6, 2011 Author Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) Dude!I will not have this topic derail to "that" subject... like all other threads here. Carry on with the Xbox dev. discussion and wishlist PS: Ego-mania sometimes works to get shit done, and keeps it going! EDIT: SNES "emulation" sound... is a totally other story... Edited April 6, 2011 by Mega Man (?)
PhilExile Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 Mega, totally agree - but I also can't stand all the hating. Ha, tell me more about the SNES sound!
Mega Man (?) Posted April 6, 2011 Author Posted April 6, 2011 Me too Phil. That's why I like to can both sides Ok so... SNES emu sound... ZSNES... always had "a not so perfect" sound... people would report it having a metallic like sound on everything... being off, almost like an effect on top of its original intended sound. I am not too sure there is much to do with this. (and if so, I personally don't have the skills) Also, on both Zsnexbox and Snex9box, There are sound issues with Sound FX.... like in games such as Earthworm Jim 1 &2 and Yoshi's Island.The SFX will cut out and not play through like they should... they just sound like blips... Also, on games like Top Gear 2, the music doesn't play like it should... part of the beat will be missing. Idk why this happens. It is hard to tell unless you know the songs well.
PhilExile Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 I think things may have been fixed in newer version of the SNES emulators. Honestly, the only game I can tell is SMW and they sound equally off in both Zsnes and Snex9box. I bet it could be fixed if a newer core were ported. I may actually mess with the most up to date emus on the PC side just to see how they do.
Mega Man (?) Posted April 6, 2011 Author Posted April 6, 2011 Sounds good...! It's research like that, which is imperative for future development
RedCapsMan Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 I've always thought we needed a proper GUI for NeoCD/SDLx Unleased. That would be a HUGE thing for me. Also, DaphneX needs a way to remap keys so that some games will actually be playable. If memory serves me right a couple games run just fine but you can only watch yourself die cuz you can't DO anything. I think its Us vs Them that only needs a fire button. I have two guesses for team ZOD: MAME and\or another Emulation Frontend where all the games are available under one big menu but its setup in a much more traditional Xport kind of way. (Hooray for run-on sentences!) Or if we're really lucky one of the PSone emulator devs gave permission to port something over to xbox now that its a dead system.
BritneysPAIRS Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 I say a new mame is in order......personally with a new gui and new core...hyperspin one would be great and it runs console stuff as well why limit it to one system thats so last year
Xbox Junkie Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 A newer MAME core would have a very difficult time running on XBOX - even on an upgraded one. I have this on good authority from IQ. Also, BP is particular and opinionated, but he isn't an egomaniac. Remember, he does all this stuff for free - as do all the other devs. Show some appreciation. i second the MAME request. Having an up to date MAME would be cool, especially if the project is not run by an egomaniac...lol. where did I mention BP? you did that yourself..lol.
BritneysPAIRS Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 well I hope your dreams come true guys..... I am a realist at times.....I wish I was wrong most of the time....its sad that often im not
jamallego Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 it good news more development to our beloven xbox, i will suggest - znesbox: better sound, more compatibility for games like star fox 2, dirt trax, top gear 3000 etc... overall this is a great emulator - pcsxbox: better compability, put a ini. file games configuration - nestopia 1.0: a new skin,
PhilExile Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 MAME is in great place. well I hope your dreams come true guys..... I am a realist at times.....I wish I was wrong most of the time....its sad that often im not
PhilExile Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 I've always thought we needed a proper GUI for NeoCD/SDLx Unleased. That would be a HUGE thing for me. Also, DaphneX needs a way to remap keys so that some games will actually be playable. If memory serves me right a couple games run just fine but you can only watch yourself die cuz you can't DO anything. I think its Us vs Them that only needs a fire button. Your right - both of those emulators need some love. Lantus did a great job with that NeoCD port. It has the best scanline filter on the XBOX in my opinion and matches the quality of the SLG3000 precisely. I have two guesses for team ZOD: MAME and\or another Emulation Frontend where all the games are available under one big menu but its setup in a much more traditional Xport kind of way. (Hooray for run-on sentences!) Doing MAME with XPort's GUI would be a pain in my opinion, but to each their own. Or if we're really lucky one of the PSone emulator devs gave permission to port something over to xbox now that its a dead system. That'd be interesting. I'm trying to build a set of ROMs that are 2D only - so this would be welcome. I've had some good luck - better than I expected, although, the trial and error of tweaking the settings is a real pain.
PhilExile Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) OK - I tested the two emulators out on the PC and here are the results: ZSnes v1.51 - Sounds just like the XBOX version, so that's a dead-end I believe SNes9x v1.52 - Sounds MUCH, MUCH better. I think it may be very slightly off - but if it is, its not very noticeable. This update was from Jan 2009, so I'm guessing its newer than Xport's port. Here is the site: http://www.snes9x.com This would be a great update if it can be done. Sounds good...! It's research like that, which is imperative for future development Edited April 6, 2011 by PhilExile
Emu Newbie Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 Excited about the thought of new developments. A few things I would like addressed in Snes9x - I've noticed that a few games (like Donkey Kong and F-zero) run in "hyper-mode" on the latest release - the music is fast and so is the gameplay. Also - when attempting to view vg maps - certain .png's work whereas others do not - I'm not sure if it has something to do with the file naming or the size of the file. Just thought I'd throw those things out there. Thanks for all the work!
PhilExile Posted April 6, 2011 Posted April 6, 2011 Hi, I think I know what the problem is - its not with the emulator. It sounds like you're using the Xtras pack, its been noted that RX mistakenly included a few PAL roms instead of NTSC - Super Star Wars is one I noticed. It will cause the game and its music to run a bit too fast. I think you can force NTSC mode in the settings or just get a correct NTSC rom and replace it. Let us know if that fixes your issue. Excited about the thought of new developments. A few things I would like addressed in Snes9x - I've noticed that a few games (like Donkey Kong and F-zero) run in "hyper-mode" on the latest release - the music is fast and so is the gameplay. Also - when attempting to view vg maps - certain .png's work whereas others do not - I'm not sure if it has something to do with the file naming or the size of the file. Just thought I'd throw those things out there. Thanks for all the work!
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