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[Zhoul]

.....xport stuff confused the young kids so this is just to play arcade games...

What's so difficult about Xport's gui? Just set it to start up from the rom list and the young kids shouldn't have a problem. Sure, his gui lets the user do whatever the heck they want, but that's because we asked him to put that stuff in there. He always listened and didn't ignore people who just wanted to improve his emulator.

Edited April 12, 2010 by Zhoul

[Zhoul]

Orig. showcase had ~800 roms. Wouldn't mind seeing 12-1500, but 2000 seems extreme for arcade only.

 

I'm not bothered by other emulator cores, but I use CoinOps like it was an emulator for coin operated games. I never stuck quarters in my NES...

 

Skins, meh. Sure why, not. But I'm happy with what you've done so far.

With MAME it's probably best just to hand pick your own collection rather than depend on someone else's. The CoinOPS set is a good starting point though, since a lot of the popular stuff is already included.

[BritneysPAIRS]

oh well ive tested on many people and they find even exiting games confusing... it cant be filtered as easy or sorted as easy....ive tested it on many people...maybe 50 or so and its just what ive seen...I saw the same thing on FBAxxx that they never found any of the games in the tabs....im only talking about new people....also I found people had massive issues with xport emus and other ones when moving from hd to sd tvs all the time they basically ended up having to adjust there games everytime they moved....they got stuff scrambled and overall they said they didnt like the experience...its just my findings and I listen to the young ones and the non experienced people....just for what I do....and I enjoy it much better as im sure many do

 

 

im sure people dont but they can do there own thing really....I wont let clutter and stuff get in the way of playing games and having fun....as it will disapoint the people I do this for and this stuff has been tested on them and they remain pretty much constant to what they want

 

Plus they just like it in one consistant interface...sorted the way they want it...and tracked for useage and also being able to easily setup there own favs...works perfect for me...im not forcing anyone to use the features they are there and from my tests most people that just want to play will prefer it that way....

 

Zhoul no offense but your comments are against the top votes you obviously dont really know that people want Showcase 2 ... I saw the figures for downloads and they kill the stuff you mention....its no offense but you are talking about doing stuff themselves when even rx list was terrible wrong in places and obviously cant setup some stuff in mame....no ones worked out CPS3 stuff for instance anyways no offense but please if you want something diff as clearly you do....start a thread start a team, as you know I dont want any part of it but best of luck

 

I know you guys are vocal and passionate but I see what happens generally when stuff is done your way...both in my personal life and also in alot of the figures so ill agree to disagree and keep going my way im happy with the results and it looks by numbers alot are....peace to all of you that want stuff to change and make it happen...with or without me...also you will have the awsome madmab things sometimes I guess best of luck with them im sure they will be all you want and much more

 

any more of stuff like this zhoul ill tend to skip over it sorry.... no problems setting up your threads I just need to progress with my direction some more

 

KI xxx core [ 20 ] [16.67%]

MK Core [ 29 ] [24.17%]

New Updated look [ 22 ] [18.33%]

New SHOWROOM with 2000 games [ 29 ] [24.17%] ************************* <------- for your info Zhoul

New Sorting Options for Console/Arcades [ 20 ] [16.67%]

[BritneysPAIRS]

its looking like ill remove all console from the build including the catagory sorting and videos etc......this will save a few gig of bandwidth if this is what is wanted...one week to decide then im looking at this stuff clearly as CoinOPS reignite X will be out and it will be the final reignite

[Zhoul]

oh well ive tested on many people and they find even exiting games confusing... it cant be filtered as easy or sorted as easy....ive tested it on many people...maybe 50 or so and its just what ive seen...I saw the same thing on FBAxxx that they never found any of the games in the tabs....im only talking about new people....also I found people had massive issues with xport emus and other ones when moving from hd to sd tvs all the time they basically ended up having to adjust there games everytime they moved....they got stuff scrambled and overall they said they didnt like the experience...its just my findings and I listen to the young ones and the non experienced people....just for what I do....and I enjoy it much better as im sure many do

 

 

im sure people dont but they can do there own thing really....I wont let clutter and stuff get in the way of playing games and having fun....as it will disapoint the people I do this for and this stuff has been tested on them and they remain pretty much constant to what they want

Exiting games ----> Right joystick button + exit. Not difficult at all.

Sorting games ----> Subfolders. It's simple and works fantastic.

HD to SD switching ----> Buy a second Xbox. Problem solved.

 

In addition, every game can be centered perfectly, which is no small feat as most other emus can't do the same. When playing Rygar on the NES, you can adjust the turbo setting so his whip gets full extension on every swing. You can even use the start button to attack if you wanted to. The level of customization allows the user to play the games exactly as they want.

 

I just don't see how it's unfriendly to newbies since most of what they need to learn is accomplished with a simple press of the right joystick button. Since Xport ported most of the emulators on the Xbox, once you learn one you've learned them all. There would be a MUCH bigger problem if every emulator were ported by someone different.

[megabungle]

its looking like ill remove all console from the build including the catagory sorting and videos etc......this will save a few gig of bandwidth if this is what is wanted...one week to decide then im looking at this stuff clearly as CoinOPS reignite X will be out and it will be the final reignite

 

Who said remove the vids? That'd be the reason for me to bother with getting a new showcase. I thought the whole idea of "showcase" is that it's full of tested, good copies of top games presented in all their glory.

 

And if you already did the work for additional console support, why not leave it in? I figured it wouldn't be hard to just point it at the rom folders I already have, and then I could check it out if I got interested. I am quite lazy, so playing everything through one emulator might be nice.

 

I just figured it would be a lot of updating and bug fixing to deal with extra consoles. You keep bring up "the results of the voting," but you set up kinda weird choices. Updated Showcase kinda blows a lot of choices out of the water. It's not like you asked "Snes or KI xxx core?"

 

 

Zhoul, my problems with looking for my own roms are manifold. Hard to find the correct version that actually works. And the only way I've found to collect xmvx is in huge rapidshare rars, which I then have to sort through and it wastes bandwidth and (temporarily) hard drive space. And on top of all that, I'm just not a big enough arcade fan to even know the names of games I don't have that are cool. Soul Edge/Calibur, I guess.. Lucky & Wild was an awesome game, but it'd never work on a controller anyways.

[Zhoul]

Zhoul no offense but your comments are against the top votes you obviously dont really know that people want Showcase 2 ... I saw the figures for downloads and they kill the stuff you mention....its no offense but you are talking about doing stuff themselves when even rx list was terrible wrong in places and obviously cant setup some stuff in mame....no ones worked out CPS3 stuff for instance anyways no offense but please if you want something diff as clearly you do....start a thread start a team, as you know I dont want any part of it but best of luck

 

I know you guys are vocal and passionate but I see what happens generally when stuff is done your way...both in my personal life and also in alot of the figures so ill agree to disagree and keep going my way im happy with the results and it looks by numbers alot are....peace to all of you that want stuff to change and make it happen...with or without me...also you will have the awsome madmab things sometimes I guess best of luck with them im sure they will be all you want and much more

 

any more of stuff like this zhoul ill tend to skip over it sorry.... no problems setting up your threads I just need to progress with my direction some more

 

KI xxx core [ 20 ] [16.67%]

MK Core [ 29 ] [24.17%]

New Updated look [ 22 ] [18.33%]

New SHOWROOM with 2000 games [ 29 ] [24.17%] ************************* <------- for your info Zhoul

New Sorting Options for Console/Arcades [ 20 ] [16.67%]

You misread my post. Here's what I said:

 

"With MAME it's probably best just to hand pick your own collection rather than depend on someone else's. The CoinOPS set is a good starting point though, since a lot of the popular stuff is already included."

 

How in the world did you interpret that as an attack on CoinOPS? I was talking about MAME itself, and then complimented CoinOPS as a good starting point for someone like him who wants to put together his own custom set. Isn't he allowed to delete and add whatever roms he chooses on his own Xbox?

[cba.gy]

I have to agree, the xport emulators have to be the easiest to use and configure.

I also don't understand the issue of switching between SD and HD, options/switch to HD/choose skin.

How is that difficult ? Do these people have problems switching channels on their TV's ?

 

On reflection, these so called "people" who can't switch from SD to HD

have bought a HD ready TV set, modded their xbox, bought and installed the correct HD AV leads, configured their xbox correctly for HD output then can't configure an emulator from SD to HD. I think not.

I think the "number" of people who struggle, is pure fabrication.

[Zhoul]

Zhoul, my problems with looking for my own roms are manifold. Hard to find the correct version that actually works. And the only way I've found to collect xmvx is in huge rapidshare rars, which I then have to sort through and it wastes bandwidth and (temporarily) hard drive space. And on top of all that, I'm just not a big enough arcade fan to even know the names of games I don't have that are cool. Soul Edge/Calibur, I guess.. Lucky & Wild was an awesome game, but it'd never work on a controller anyways.

If you can free up some space, you might consider grabbing the full CoinOPS set just so you'll have all the roms you need from the get go. That solves one of your problems right there. Then you can whittle down the list if you're willing to put the time in to Google the filenames. Some rom names are pretty obvious when skimming through the list.

 

Here are a couple good sites to help with putting together a custom list:

 

http://www.bmigaming.com/top100arcade.htm

http://www.arcade-museum.com/TOP100.html

Edited April 12, 2010 by Zhoul

[BritneysPAIRS]

its ok....im just saying its not really helping this thread ..... its really just saying dont worry about showcase 2.... which is fine to think but is kind of irralivant to the topic at hand which is about doing it

[BritneysPAIRS]

well you guys dont understand the issues and thats why ill leave you to it ...xports emus endup in F:/xbmc/videos and then the people started crying they couldnt find them...the young ones have there own xbox on there small tv and take it to friends....

 

anyways you guys can stick with madmab stuff which you will be im sure...this as I say is for people that want change and I know of many....so no offense although you say they find it is easy I do actually watch them....and I wont be adding this stuff as ive seen the same issues with these systems come up time and time again.

 

I think its obvious if you sit people down on the two with no knowedge which one they can play and which one ends up a mess....including a scrambled skin and wierd stuff like that...dont know how they manage but I was sick of fixing all the issues with peoples xboxs with these emus...and now I dont have to...

 

The videos will only be deleted for Console stuff as its whats asked for by the many...im simply giving you guys the option....of what you guys want....anyone else like rx can do his own build no issues...I personally wont use it but hey power to him for doing it....

 

I do this stuff for people like megabungle ... when I started I just wanted an easy gui.... then I found so many cool games I didnt know about..... as I code it I saw many issues with what people say is true, even rx list has many issues he missed and also many issues he stated that arnt true...so if he gets it wrong what chance does someone have that just wants to play games.....the solution for them....

SHOWCASE....... the solution for people that really think they know what they are doing(ive seen few that understand CoinOPS setup to my depth)then they are free to do any build they want...nothing is locked

[Zhoul]

its ok....im just saying its not really helping this thread ..... its really just saying dont worry about showcase 2.... which is fine to think but is kind of irralivant to the topic at hand which is about doing it

I was responding to megabungle because I thought I could help. What's wrong with trying to be helpful? At any rate, what I posted first was a request for feedback about the XML stuff you mentioned in the other thread. That's what interests me. It's a great idea and I wanted to learn more -- and still do.

[BritneysPAIRS]

I havent thought about it at present....its pretty easy to add..ill talk with some and may get time to add it...all it would do is work like the romstatus.xml and use method in settings if nothing in xml if not it could be set to run a mode...if you like pixel perfect and dont like any overscan choose pixel perfect auto fit and adjust the borders of where it fits yourself

[Zhoul]

I havent thought about it at present....its pretty easy to add..ill talk with some and may get time to add it...all it would do is work like the romstatus.xml and use method in settings if nothing in xml if not it could be set to run a mode...if you like pixel perfect and dont like any overscan choose pixel perfect auto fit and adjust the borders of where it fits yourself

Would it be possible for the user to specify in the XML which filtering mode he'd like to use and basically run certain games in classic stretched-to-screen mode? This would be useful for SDTV users who want to make sure ALL of their games fit properly on the screen. Use Pixel Perfect 2x and Point Filtering for games that don't have too much over scan and stretched-to-screen mode and bilinear filtering for games that do.

Edited April 12, 2010 by Zhoul

[BritneysPAIRS]

yes it means you could force it to any mode for any game....no matter what the setting is...like the automatic sound off and all time classics/hot games they can be customised though the xml...also game launchers are run though the xmls