Let's talk about something Controversial.

[Hera]

After looking at the Weird story thread, i ask do anyone believe in ghosts?

Hauntings? etc.?

 

I often do look research on souls just in general whether it be religious or scientific.

The funny thing is, there are some religious pple who dont belive in ghosts and spirits

while some scientific research state that they believe it may be traces of such an entity.

 

BUt majority is the contrast of that ofcourse.

 

I think it would be interesting to be those guys in the VAN outside the haunted house and observe whats going on inside.

 

It depends on what precisely is meant by the term “ghosts.” If the term means “spirit beings,” the answer is a qualified yes. If the term means “spirits of people who have died,” the answer is no. “…man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment.” The closest biblical example of a “haunting” is found in Matthew 5:1-20. A “legion” of demons possessed a man and used the man to “haunt” a graveyard. There were no “ghosts” involved. It was a case of a normal person being controlled by demons to terrorize the people of that area. What happens is, demons parade themselves around like they're good "ghosts" and open up the curiosity we all have as human beings. We go to things we should stay away from to seek answers and we end up dealing with things we never thought preparing ourselves for. I not only speak for myself but for lots of people whose stories I have heard that were similar to mine. I don't believe that the human spirit is here on earth when they die.

[Hera]

War... A game that has been played since the dawn of written history.

 

We go to school and learn history for what purpose? To learn from our mistakes of the past, and not redo them? Bullshit. We learn history so that we can see without ignorant eyes what is actually transpiring in front of our very faces. Because no-one seems to learn anything... it keeps repeating.

 

The world is basically the exact same as it has been.

 

have/havenot: Those with (anything) use others (havenots) to their own gain. How else CAN it be. Where we are now is similar to the days of kings and lords, pharo's or whatnot. Kings living off the food peasants work their asses off for. The peasants suffer in terms of medical care and the like, where as the king and his crew take the benefitt of everything in their land. They claim rightful rule, but their line usually took the position at the end of a sword anyway. (european style at least) but I'm sure it's the same anywhere. And so they take their "ideals" and impose it on their people. Sound fimilar so far?

 

We pay our taxes, we buy gas, we buy anything, and our government gets its share. We have cliche reports of senators and state/country officials with ridiculous things that were purchased on OUR bill. We the people paid for them. Like someone hear in Florida a few years back. Guy had a desk of exquisite quality. Desk had a $15,000+ pricetag. We paid for it. Aslo there was word on a sinator whos power bill alone was more than my rent. Appearently he had alot of work done to his house, and he paid for it with our tax money. Sh!t like this happens all the time everywhere.

 

Aaaaany way, my point is money. This gas thing. We have the technology to go beyond petrol. We have had the tech for a while. The tech for superior carberators was there before I was born, and I'm 30. Back then there was a guy who came up with a carberator that made MPG crazy efficient. But it was "lost" Many people have come up with similar designs or whatever, but it never makes it. I heard of one case where it passes all emitions checks but it needed to pass the official one in Texas... where it somehow didn't pass the test??? Therer is alot more to those stories but the point is... the powers that be (the haves) make sure it never becomes a threat. Some say the oil companies bought out the patten, some say foul play. Whatever the truth, I see conspiracy. The government makes favors to finantial backers, tax cuts, whatever... the list is huge. Companies make stupid money, and break off some. Gas being one of the most prominent. Petrol is stone age tech. There is NO reason we should still be using it, other than the fact that it COSTS, how will they make anymore money of gas if were not using it?

 

This is a fuking joke. A deadly joke. A game where we are the pawns. bla bla (endless ranting) point is, war on terrorism is not what I see. It's an excuse. Look... we have many problems in the world. I don't have the answers. But I do know thet we have been over there for a loooong time. And for what. Establishing a new government? They are just as corrupt as we are... differene is the culture, etc. I say "they" but I use that word so to speak.

 

What should we do... I don't know, but I will say that there is a ton of sh!t going on that is BS. That is obvious. But what we can see for sure, is there is a distinct pattern to the MO of the powers that be. We are just peasants that cannot break free... especially if they are standing on our shoulders to attain their height. Their weight squashes us in place. And of you roll over trying to throw them off, there is another to take your place. I'm not saying we can't change anything... but first, what can we do differently? I don't know.

 

Guess I'm just saying... war on terrorism, laughable.

 

 

I agree with pretty much everything you said.

 

Sybarite Paladin AxL,

 

As for us being F*d if we didn't have oil, I'm sure you're right. The brainless ones who fully depend on such things won't make it. Though, if we go back to the good ol' days of doing sh*t ourselves, EVERYONE would have some kind of job, EVERYONE would have something of their own (that they wouldn't have to pay for the rest of their whole lives), and EVERYONE would be too busy working their ass off sun up to sun down to provide for themselves. I don't mind going back to living off the land so if that's what it takes, I'm all for it!

Edited April 17, 2009 by Hera

[Hera]

How about Search and Seizure?

[Sybarite Paladin AxL]

How about Search and Seizure?

 

Invasion of privacy and a mockery of one's freedom unless substantial evidence is found via lawful and constitutional methods. By substantial I refer to evidence that would already be compelling enough on its own to close a case and provide a judicial sentence, searching and seizing being used after gathering said evidence to provide a more accurate sentence period.

 

To exemplify: I murder a thousand babies and keep their spinal cords in a room in my house for decorative purposes. The police gathers evidence from eye witnesses and other sources, without using search and seizure. These alone would provide enough data for my conviction, and net me life imprisonment. After the authorities are satisfied with this outcome, they obtain a warrant based on said evidence and find my trophy room. This would serve the purpose of proving the severity of my actions, thereby commuting my life imprisonment sentence to death by execution where applicable.

 

 

On a different note: Abortion. Pro-life or Pro-choice?

My stance: pro-choice, abortion being legal at any given period during pregnancy.

[Hera]

I'm pro-life. Aborting anytime during pregnancy is just flat out murder in my opinion. Don't wanna have kids? Don't make an adult decision by spreading your legs unprotected. Simple. Too many people over complicate the matter to attempt to justify their reasoning why they won't accept responsibility.

 

I would only understand the decision to abort for two reasons..

 

1. Victim of rape.

2. If the child were to be severely brain damaged.

 

 

There are many vids and documentaries that I've seen that had shown a live abortion..for people to say the child doesn't know it's dying just because they're not fully developed, they're fools. The instinct for survival kicks in. For example, a woman decided to wait until she was 6 months pregnant before getting an abortion. They inserted a camera, and injected the child with poison...you could see that child squirming around trying to fight for it's life. It was sickening.

 

People just do it because it's an easy way out of a problem they created.

Edited April 25, 2009 by Hera

[Sybarite Paladin AxL]

I'm pro-life. Aborting anytime during pregnancy is just flat out murder in my opinion. Don't wanna have kids? Don't make an adult decision by spreading your legs unprotected. Simple. Too many people over complicate the matter to attempt to justify their reasoning why they won't accept responsibility.

 

I would only understand the decision to abort for two reasons..

 

1. Victim of rape.

2. If the child were to be severely brain damaged.

 

 

There are many vids and documentaries that I've seen that had shown a live abortion..for people to say the child doesn't know it's dying just because they're not fully developed, they're fools. The instinct for survival kicks in. For example, a woman decided to wait until she was 6 months pregnant before getting an abortion. They inserted a camera, and injected the child with poison...you could see that child squirming around trying to fight for it's life. It was sickening.

 

People just do it because it's an easy way out of a problem they created.

 

What about a woman's right to choose when to have a child? Pregnancy in my view should be a conscious choice between two people, when they feel ready and responsible enough to raise that child. Abortions happen because of unwanted pregnancies, the key word here being unwanted. An unwanted child is a consequence, not a choice. I doubt that child would grow up in a healthy environment, considering parents might still harbor some form of resentment, however misplaced because of the unwanted child. A child when at a young age is only a burden. It effectively prevents parents from improving their standard of living, getting better education or jobs. Thank Raptor Jesus for abortion, or else this world would be full of trailer parks.

 

What strikes me as odd though is people's exceptions. Pregnancies resulting from rape or ones with malformations are still human beings and still have the same right to live according to pro-lifers. You're still killing the thing whatever the cause was. There should be no exceptions when you take this moral standpoint. By this token we're treating them as consequences and not human beings.

 

Here's an interesting fact, contraceptives taken to prevent pregnancies act the same way as medicated abortions. They do the same thing.

 

[2eyez]

I'm pro for whatever people want to do. The only thing holding us back are laws. I swear, people are soooo da'am nosey.

[Sybarite Paladin AxL]

I'm pro for whatever people want to do. The only thing holding us back are laws. I swear, people are soooo da'am nosey.

 

So you're cool with me killing you then? That's kinda the problem with your stance, people aren't supposed to be able to everything.

[2eyez]

I'm pro for whatever people want to do. The only thing holding us back are laws. I swear, people are soooo da'am nosey.

 

So you're cool with me killing you then? That's kinda the problem with your stance, people aren't supposed to be able to everything.

You can kill me if you want, just be prepaired for the end results. If people are supposed to be able to do everything, then there is no such thing as freedom.

 

 

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Edited April 25, 2009 by 2eyez

[Hera]

I'm pro-life. Aborting anytime during pregnancy is just flat out murder in my opinion. Don't wanna have kids? Don't make an adult decision by spreading your legs unprotected. Simple. Too many people over complicate the matter to attempt to justify their reasoning why they won't accept responsibility.

 

I would only understand the decision to abort for two reasons..

 

1. Victim of rape.

2. If the child were to be severely brain damaged.

 

 

There are many vids and documentaries that I've seen that had shown a live abortion..for people to say the child doesn't know it's dying just because they're not fully developed, they're fools. The instinct for survival kicks in. For example, a woman decided to wait until she was 6 months pregnant before getting an abortion. They inserted a camera, and injected the child with poison...you could see that child squirming around trying to fight for it's life. It was sickening.

 

People just do it because it's an easy way out of a problem they created.

 

What about a woman's right to choose when to have a child? Pregnancy in my view should be a conscious choice between two people, when they feel ready and responsible enough to raise that child. Abortions happen because of unwanted pregnancies, the key word here being unwanted. An unwanted child is a consequence, not a choice. I doubt that child would grow up in a healthy environment, considering parents might still harbor some form of resentment, however misplaced because of the unwanted child. A child when at a young age is only a burden. It effectively prevents parents from improving their standard of living, getting better education or jobs. Thank Raptor Jesus for abortion, or else this world would be full of trailer parks.

 

What strikes me as odd though is people's exceptions. Pregnancies resulting from rape or ones with malformations are still human beings and still have the same right to live according to pro-lifers. You're still killing the thing whatever the cause was. There should be no exceptions when you take this moral standpoint. By this token we're treating them as consequences and not human beings.

 

Here's an interesting fact, contraceptives taken to prevent pregnancies act the same way as medicated abortions. They do the same thing.

 

 

First, I'll say that I never considered them exceptions..I said I could understand. My cousin-in-law suffers from several illnesses preventing him from "living" as some people would put it. But his parents decided to keep him alive and love him as much as any other kid. Some others would think differently, either they couldn't afford the continuous visits to the doctor as required or they couldn't emotionally handle the sadness of what their kid could be missing out on. If it were me in any of those circumstances, I wouldn't have an abortion. I firmly believe something good comes out of something bad. You never know what kind of happiness a child could bring. As long as they're raised accordingly, they could very well be useful in society.

 

You are right in fact about the psychological effects on an "unwanted" child. Kids shouldn't have kids. But I don't believe that killing a life you created just to make sure you're covered should be acceptable. My cousin had 4 abortions because even though she was fully educated about sex and the possible consequences, she continued to have them only because she wanted to have fun and not take responsibility.

 

I will tell you one thing being a parent myself...there is no such thing as being financially stable enough to have children. Either you have too much which in turn spoils the hell out of them or you feel as though you have too little which makes you question your parenting. Having a child is not as expensive as people say so it's just another petty excuse to not fess up to being an adult.

 

As for those contraceptives, the woman has a right for choosing what she wants to use. As long as it works accordingly with her health. Most women in these recent times have been educated on those types of contraceptives and make a decision based on that. Most pills today just turn everything off and give steady and painless periods. That's what women mainly want.

 

All in all, there's a tit for tat on this subject. Some people see it one way and others see it another. I don't approve but I also don't go crazy about it like most pro-life supporters. It's not up for me to judge. I just say how I view it and leave it at that.

[Shoma]

I'm pro for whatever people want to do. The only thing holding us back are laws. I swear, people are soooo da'am nosey.

 

So you're cool with me killing you then? That's kinda the problem with your stance, people aren't supposed to be able to everything.

You can kill me if you want, just be prepaired for the end results. If people are supposed to be able to do everything, then there is no such thing as freedom.

 

 

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I cannot begin to tell u how awful your world sounds.

THe freedom you're talking about can be found in da wilderness.

The freedom I'm talking is da freedom to live, without being whipped, forced work before puberty, etc.

Thats y we're friggin called da land of da free, a 100% free isnt free in this world, just chaos.

Remember dat.

[Chaotica]

I'm pro life. Abortion is murder, no matter which way you look at it. Once a human being is brought into life (which happens at conception, IMO) it is NOT a choice. No way. Human life is sacred. This view doesn't stem from my Catholic beliefs; rather, just from common sense.

 

I can see your point about treating rape victims differently, but I still think abortion should only be allowed for said victims, or if the mother is at serious risk due to the pregnancy. Those are the only factors that sway me in this argument.

[Hera]

What does everyone think about the Smoking Laws?

[mtsaint]

Smoking is a terrible habit and non smokers shouldnt have to deal with second hand smoke in public places. By all means smoke in your house

 

war on terrorism= a term coined by gwb to invoke fear . war on terror was a joke all it did was strip us of our rights and alienate us from the rest of the united nations.

 

abortion if you dont want the kid why should you go through 9 months then raise it for the next 18 years? even though it was unplanned/unwanted?People do what they want but we will always have conservative opinions telling us what is right and what is wrong

[Hera]

Smoking is a terrible habit and non smokers shouldnt have to deal with second hand smoke in public places. By all means smoke in your house

 

I agree when it comes to restaurants and in the workplace. I'm a smoker and I wouldn't want people to breath that crap if they don't want to. But I'm a bit agitated at the fact that most businesses make people leave the premises just to smoke a cigarette. There should be no problem smoking outside. The whole world doesn't belong to non-smokers and I think that needs to be realized. It's a bit disappointing to have people doped up on weed and crack while working yet a person who wants to smoke a cigarette gets most of the discipline. At least it's legal. It's our addiction and our bodies. Don't tell me I can't smoke outside in the open air.