Dooz Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 At least we can both agree that Sony's new controller is extremely rediculous.
Nusumenai Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Does that even matter for a system that doesn't support HDTV happy.gif? yes... trust me Anti-Aliasing makes a whole lot of difference. Im sure lots of ps2 games would look a bit better if it was able to be used. I remeber when sony annouced no anti-aliasing the makers of oddworld droped its plans of making games for it on the spot and im sure other devs felt pretty strong about it as well.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well... It might make a BIT of difference... But not enough to actually use it. I can't understand them not using AA. Whatever clarity or added detailed that would be gained by using it, would be destroyed by the TVs blurry display.
Wizard Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 At least we can both agree that Sony's new controller is extremely rediculous.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I third on that agreement. Year of tha sony-rang.
nagmine Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Does that even matter for a system that doesn't support HDTV happy.gif? yes... trust me Anti-Aliasing makes a whole lot of difference. Im sure lots of ps2 games would look a bit better if it was able to be used. I remeber when sony annouced no anti-aliasing the makers of oddworld droped its plans of making games for it on the spot and im sure other devs felt pretty strong about it as well.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well... It might make a BIT of difference... But not enough to actually use it. I can't understand them not using AA. Whatever clarity or added detailed that would be gained by using it, would be destroyed by the TVs blurry display.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> i dont know how blury your tv is but i can deviently see jagged pollys caused by no AA. Take a game for the xbox and ps2 and compare the edges.
darkmage479 Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 On the controller subject, i found the n64 controller quite nice. It has some heft to it and the joystick has a better feel than the little PS "mushrooms". Also, the Saturn controller remains the ultimate for fighters, with six face buttons. QUOTE(Nusumenai @ Jul 16 2005, 01:39 AM)QUOTE(nagmine @ Jul 15 2005, 02:04 AM)QUOTEDoes that even matter for a system that doesn't support HDTV happy.gif? yes... trust me Anti-Aliasing makes a whole lot of difference. Im sure lots of ps2 games would look a bit better if it was able to be used. I remeber when sony annouced no anti-aliasing the makers of oddworld droped its plans of making games for it on the spot and im sure other devs felt pretty strong about it as well.* Well... It might make a BIT of difference... But not enough to actually use it. I can't understand them not using AA. Whatever clarity or added detailed that would be gained by using it, would be destroyed by the TVs blurry display.* i dont know how blury your tv is but i can deviently see jagged pollys caused by no AA. Take a game for the xbox and ps2 and compare the edges. I personally do see the effects of no anti-aliasing on ps2, in part because i play hooked up to a PC monitor with my face around 2ft away from the screen. However, i will submit to anyone to find a better looking game in terms of speed, effects and total immersion than Zone of the Enders - Second Runner on PS2, which shows that the system can put out highly advanced lighting and texture effects.
Dooz Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 I, personally, don't care if it supports anti-aliasing or not. Honestly, I don't even want a new wave of systems coming out. I'm happy with my PS2 and Gamecube. Hell, I was happy with the SNES. I don't like spending my money on new systems every 4 years. Everything's too expencive when it comes to gaming. I mean, two new games will usually come to $100. Anyone else find that kinda rediculous? Horray for tangents.
Gryph Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 I, personally, don't care if it supports anti-aliasing or not. Honestly, I don't even want a new wave of systems coming out. I'm happy with my PS2 and Gamecube. Hell, I was happy with the SNES. I don't like spending my money on new systems every 4 years. Everything's too expencive when it comes to gaming. I mean, two new games will usually come to $100. Anyone else find that kinda rediculous? Horray for tangents.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ha! It's even worse for us PC gamers. But I liked the N64 controller a lot. Also, even though the PS3 controller looks ridiculous, I'm sure it will be a comfortable because I've held a controller like that before.
Nusumenai Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Does that even matter for a system that doesn't support HDTV happy.gif? yes... trust me Anti-Aliasing makes a whole lot of difference. Im sure lots of ps2 games would look a bit better if it was able to be used. I remeber when sony annouced no anti-aliasing the makers of oddworld droped its plans of making games for it on the spot and im sure other devs felt pretty strong about it as well.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well... It might make a BIT of difference... But not enough to actually use it. I can't understand them not using AA. Whatever clarity or added detailed that would be gained by using it, would be destroyed by the TVs blurry display.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> i dont know how blury your tv is but i can deviently see jagged pollys caused by no AA. Take a game for the xbox and ps2 and compare the edges.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Xbox supports HDTV... Anyhow, the best way to test what I'm saying is... Run your computer desktop of TV-OUT... That should tell you everything. Also, if you ran PS2, Xbox, Gamecube off your monitor you would see what console games really look like... It's not pretty.
Gryph Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Yeah, low res TVs blur the image so it looks alright. Once you translate that to a hi res display, you can see the uglyness. However, I really don't care about aliasing.
OverlordMondo Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Ha! It's even worse for us PC gamers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I find PC gaming considerably cheaper than console gaming (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge).
Shibathedog Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 I actually think everyone has brought up some valid points here, someone should mash together all the valid points from each side of the agument here and submit it to that one site that is brutally honost with its reviews....the one that really bashes on crappy games...i forget the URL though, they are mentioned on Joystiq alot though.
James Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 Yep, I'll go with the WE DON'T CARE way too.If you don't like it, STFU and don't buy it.You go buy your PS3, I won't because the PS2 in comparison to Xbox and Gamecube alone was a laugh and a half, not to mention it wasn't even HALF what Sony hyped it out to be. The Dreamcast sports hardware features that the PS2 doesn't have, features that have been an industry standard for YEARS. Can you say Hardware Full Scene Anti-Aliasing? But thats a personal opinon, and it's not something I'd start a thread about! I like my Gamecube, more than my Xbox too btw. There are more than just 4 good games for it, just because you don't think so..........means jack sh!t, the world doesn't revolve around you. If all you are into is games with violence and mature subject matter, go ahead and play em.......but don't whine because someone like Nintendo doesn't cater to your needs and push 80-90% of it's software to be aimed towards that kind of audience. Not everyone is some 14 year old kid who doesn't have a clue where gaming started....... "FUN" doesn't = Guns and boobies <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm back and I'm already agreeing with people. Especially HIM! He talks the truth.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I also agree
NukeFall Posted July 17, 2005 Posted July 17, 2005 Normally id just say check out the other post i made in the ds one but something cut my eye. I think someone said that there aiming for a different demographic, which they are, but i just wanted to adress the whole "Nintendo is for kids" lie. Yes i said its a lie. Nintendo games are not kidish. A kidish game is a sesame street game that teaches how to count.Am i saying that nintendos charcters are a bit cartoonish? no of course not they are. But really does that make them a childrens character. No it doesnt. I know plently of adults that have the same if not more fun playing old kirby games then me. There not intended for children there intended for everyone. Its people that have the idea to be teen targeted that the game must inculde complicated plots and cool special themes. Honestly i hate those more then other games. If there is anything i like about nintendo is that there Story doesnt outdo the game play (In single player). The thing with sony or xbox is if i wanna play story mode i have to do alot of special things along with missions and stuff. With Nintendo on the other hand i can just start up into the game and have tons of fun. What ever happend to games like Contra or Kirby: SS and Dreamland. Oh wait kirbys still around and as fun as ever. Sure there isnt some complicated plot or some twists in the plot but honestly ive said it before.... If you care more about the story of the game then something like gameplay just go read books. Seriously if im playing a game with a kick ass story but a boring gameplay then i wont play it far into it. Now im not saying nintendo doesnt have those games they do but so far those games seem to be the games that people would think would be more teen oriented. Well that was just me opinion.
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