After the install there was trouble and in an effort to narrow it down I turned off one service too many. So, had to do another install. After that I noticed a program called ssms.exe was running and it wanted to access the internet. I checked it out and it is a trojan. Fortunately it wasn't too hard to get rid of it. (boot to safe mode, delete smss.exe, remove 4 entries from the registry, empty out the TEMP folder, and move tftp.exe out of the path) Then I found the IE problem, the install puts IE5 in but it's full of bugs. Upgraded to IE6 which fixed the forum issues. mIRC connects to efnet but not much else, msoffice works, email works, msn is totally broken, website watcher is still unregistered and won't start. The virus scanner had to be reinstalled but unable to update to the latest dats, mcafee is totally hopeless with support and so is their website. I will need to grab a later version from work tomorrow.