I was scrolling around other forums and found out that the black friday list is already out. Note this is only in America I believe. The best buy and compusa lists are huge atm. http://www.bf2005.net/ I wouldn't expect much though. Since I"m leaving to goto NY that day. Last year my brothers, brother's friends, and I ventured out and found out that people were there already. Walmart's line was stretched out around another building. Ugh crazy people.