OverlordMondo Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 Isuka kicks ass, if only because of the sexy mummified Haruko clone. I must worship her.
Wizard Posted July 6, 2004 Author Posted July 6, 2004 GGX2 is the world's most badass fighting game. Despite what anyone says.Seconded. Althought I categorize K`dash as a Guilty gear fan in general, I don't understand his hatred. I don't see much unbalance, infinites, etc but I never look at those in a video game. I'm right down the middle, hate everything else about it, like the music, most of the gameplay and some of the charcaters. Anyways, most bug fixes were fixed in #Reload. But SOL IS STILL FSCKING TOP TEIR DAMNIT(they didn't get rid of his god forsaken dust loop >_<), at least I-No is top teir and my dear Millia is still top and 2nd fastest charcater in the game.
Gryph Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 GGX2 is the world's most badass fighting game. Despite what anyone says.Seconded. Althought I categorize K`dash as a Guilty gear fan in general, I don't understand his hatred. I don't see much unbalance, infinites, etc but I never look at those in a video game. I'm right down the middle, hate everything else about it, like the music, most of the gameplay and some of the charcaters. Anyways, most bug fixes were fixed in #Reload. But SOL IS STILL FSCKING TOP TEIR DAMNIT(they didn't get rid of his god forsaken dust loop >_<), at least I-No is top teir and my dear Millia is still top and 2nd fastest charcater in the game. Sol is my favorite character. He is such a badass!
Soundboz Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 (edited) Plus someone else.Robo-Ky MK II perhaps? ok, after searching around, I've missunderstood something. I thought that MK II was the #reload's robo-ky (who's also making an appearance). sorry.____.; edit - Anyways, most bug fixes were fixed in #Reload. But SOL IS STILL FSCKING TOP TEIR DAMNIT(they didn't get rid of his god forsaken dust loop >_<),Sol isn't top tier O_o... He's pretty high, but the only sure top tier characters are Slayer, Millia, Faust, Eddie, and MAYBE Bridget. Here's the basic standpoint of Japan + America. Top Tier:EddieMilliaEddieBridget (Mostly in Japan, America hates cross-dressers )Faust High Tier:SolOther people I don't care about. Edited July 6, 2004 by Soundboz
Wizard Posted July 6, 2004 Author Posted July 6, 2004 (edited) Sol isn't top tier O_o... He's pretty high, but the only sure top tier characters are Slayer, Millia, Faust, Eddie, and MAYBE Bridget. Here's the basic standpoint of Japan + America. Top Tier:EddieMilliaEddieBridget (Mostly in Japan, America hates cross-dressers )Faust High Tier:SolOther people I don't care about.Sol's dust loop is still there, all they did was change the timing of it. They made Eddie less realible on his shadow, still considered top, just worse. Millia would be this - Movement: Air Dash 22.0->20.0 dots. Air back dash 16.5->15 dotsDust: Startup 27->25F. Recovery 27->23FJump D: Damage 40->36. Normal hit causes the opponent to fly sideways. Active 6->7F. Landing recovery 5->6F. Increased priorityTandem Top(HS): Increased guard damageFar Standing S: Added hittable frames as it comes outJump S: Decreased priorityDead Angle Attack: Recovery 28->33FNormal Throw: Base damage correction 50%->40%Jump: Startup 2->3FAir Back Dash: Increased size of hittable framesIron Saber: Damage 48->36. Base damage correction 90%Bad Moon: Base damage correction 80%. FRC point added at 6~8F after hiting the opponent or touching the ground. Landing recovery 4->7FSilent Force: Base damage correction 80%. Guard damage set to 10. Distance to retrieve needle 128->100 dots. Attack level 3->2. Max stagger 52->49Still pretty good imo, Millia is still fast hitter. Faust and Johnny were shafted in #reload imo. Bridget has most of his moves toned down a bit. Edit: Another thing, most of the players in the U.S. use Sol because he practically defeats everyone if used correctly (Evo2k3 anyone? SOL FEST!?). Another thing is that #reload isn't at Evo if I recall since everyone would need an Xbox >_<, or imported the Japanese/Korean version. Edited July 6, 2004 by K`dash
Captain FuKu Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 huh??? Eddie and Faust? Top tier???? Unbelievable Yeah, you heard right: Eddie and Faust are top tier. Eddie can get free damage after a knockdown with his unblockables, and Faust just has excellent normals, range, and crazy mix-ups using his glitch. If you're curious just watch some Japanese match vids. (These are #Reload; also, just add "h" to the front.) ttp://ppph.org/~lolilerbutai/ Sol is more upper mid tier, and Bridget is definitely not top.
Soundboz Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 huh??? Eddie and Faust? Top tier???? Unbelievable Yeah, you heard right: Eddie and Faust are top tier. Eddie can get free damage after a knockdown with his unblockables, and Faust just has excellent normals, range, and crazy mix-ups using his glitch. If you're curious just watch some Japanese match vids. (These are #Reload; also, just add "h" to the front.) ttp://ppph.org/~lolilerbutai/ Sol is more upper mid tier, and Bridget is definitely not top. Over the last few Japanese matches that I've seen, Bridget is either VERY low top, or high up on high tier. He's getting more and more attention since people have started abusing his range, and Me and My Killing Machine (<3).
OverlordMondo Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 What tier eh? You lost me with your fighter mumbo jumbo again.
Agozer Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 (edited) People, just play the game...Let's leave the potential gameplay pits at the doorstep. If you enjoy the game, why do you need to know about infinite dust loops and all that? If one wants to get too technical, one can just go about whoring in VF. Edited July 6, 2004 by Agozer
Wizard Posted July 6, 2004 Author Posted July 6, 2004 Well yeah :\ I'll stop going technical, but i'll end it with this. Sol is top, just last and www.a-cho.com has some vids at the bottom of the page, updated...i have no idea how many times it's updated, but I got a few SSZS vids from there.
Skythe Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 There is no such thing as a definate tier list for any game. But I will say that Faust and Chipp are my best characters.
Wizard Posted July 6, 2004 Author Posted July 6, 2004 (edited) Strange, because Sammy even released one when GGXX came out :S Tops would be like what we said (and Sol). The amount of times Sol is used in the U.S. are horrid. Chipp = Fast character in the game and a whore for the most (and some very very useless) moves in the game :S Good thing he's toned down in #reload. Anyways, anyone can be good with Chipp, he has a big ass move list and their all easy to use. Edited July 6, 2004 by K`dash
Agozer Posted July 6, 2004 Posted July 6, 2004 At this point in time I must say that Justice's and Dizzy's Gamma Ray still leave's me in awe, no matter how many times I've seen it. Both have tiny movelists, but they rack up the damage with Tension Moves.
Weirdy Posted July 7, 2004 Posted July 7, 2004 someone please expalin the tier system to me!! seriously, I hear all this top tier crap and I don't know wtf it means. Explain
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