BritneysPAIRS Posted May 31, 2011 Author Posted May 31, 2011 OK the first patch for CoinOPS 2 is nearly ready...its going though a bug bash.... its about 250 games....200 plus new Arcade Games...all with videos game information etcit has pixel perfect for all consoles and linked though a one touch button that automatically adjusts all games for any screensizeN64 now works in HD for all users.... Plus lots lots more..... CoinOPS 2 Upgrade 1 is now in bugbash time MASSIVE UPDATE THIS ONE
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 2, 2011 Author Posted June 2, 2011 release in for for new build tommorrow night...was out and about tonight.... ill start on a new build soon afterwards this one should be big...I was about to remove the locks but after I mentioned the release which was built with no locks the trolls came straight back...so the locks remain and ill insert them tommorrow night.... no upgrades except off the full pack...this will be in the release notes.....it will be up over the weekend 250 new games...mainly arcadesPixel Perfect for console coresDefinable Nintendo 64 HDNew driversRepaired driversand more.....its a big update....enjoy oh I forgot ive added a few other things I fogot more tommorrow ill release the change log and build name and info...and it will be finalised for release
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 5, 2011 Author Posted June 5, 2011 ***** CoinOPS 2 R2 Standalone ***** Nintendo 64 HD support (user definable)Pixel Perfect Support for Consoles...new one click Aspect Correction and Pixel Perfect settingsNew Sort by Split Name and Sort by Merged NameNew Sort by Name and Console.......Sorts it by Arcades...then Commodore 64...Game Boy..... fast Jumps Arcade A...Arcade B............to....Arcade Z....then Commodore 64...Gameboy.........Support for more Arcades, Super Nintendo and Nintendo 64Fixed alot of Arcade games for the new packAdded bublbobu (Bubble Booble ultimate)Bug FixesCleanupsBetter support for SoRr Updated doccumentationMatched to the new Update Pack with 250games coming in the next few days......
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 11, 2011 Author Posted June 11, 2011 all of newbes fuckin the scene lately... some new driver stuff is being worked on...and a few cleanups.... anyone know of a dev site....thats protected from people like here? PM me....if not I may open up the private site soon for dev its clear like mame a few people with no knoweldge want to spoil it for everyone.....work goes on regardless as it allways does.... PS xtras made something that thanks the people that did screenshot packs and videos like rx....it doesnt do the people that orig made the emu or the xtras....eg xtras where made by emumovies people...then myself and one other grabbed them and converted them...they where handed to rx...then he renamed them....he now gets the credit for renaming....and they want me to do such behavour to me its a joke....I can rename a file in 5 secs but I cant create it let alone convert it in that time...the credit going to people that add a screenshot pack this is sad to me....and ill never ever work like that....I know some of the people that work behind the scenes and they are the ones that deserve this credit...screenshot packs can be got from 100s of places created from people who know little to nothing....its all good work but to thank them over the real talent is sad to me.... anyways....new release is out next weekend....more info soon...ill note proper stuff
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 12, 2011 Author Posted June 12, 2011 dev has moved underground till the trolls carm down...this happens around release time release time is next weekend...if you think you can help and want private stuff PM can I help....no ill leave it up to the talkers, maybe they can talk the source code into fixing itself ....patched final burn core with fix
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 Updgraded some stuff on Final Burn all testers ill be preping a private beta tonight....please get your stuff in...and if your testing please test the new Final Burn and new Nintendo stuff and new arcade games...ill be on later tonight
+ T + Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 heheh aparently +t+ made fba hehehehe what a joke gogo Yoshiro and iq you have long since been forgotten not to mention some xtra help handed to them someone underground ... we owe ourelves to iq ready history but he doesnt say much about whats hes done....its all just what I read...I only know his skillsThat was just an honest mistake by Mega Man (?). I never claimed I made FBA and I wasn't involved at all in the post of CoinOPS credits but (apart from me being in there) I do agree with it.
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 its ok ill remove it but really I talk to these dev....and they dont want what you guys are saying.... and they want the sources released as its open source...you know the people dont release sources and this goes against there wishesgogo even worked on surreal and you know most of these people get sick of this stuff and they are the true dev like iq when they tire stuff like cave games cant be achieved.......why do you support rubbish about crediting screenshot packs?from people that dont release anything but credit themselves for the tinest of things
+ T + Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 .......why do you support rubbish about crediting screenshot packs?from people that dont release anything but credit themselves for the tinest of thingsI only support credit where it's due. If any of the xtras are in CoinOPS then they should be credited, if you haven't used any of their stuff then they shouldn't be. Simple as that.
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 Ill spend a full afternoon crediting everyone in all 12gig of sources and support files added...probably 100plus people when the xport sources are updated to the release builds by the xtras team with the opensource code they used from xport....but not till then...so xtras make it happen and credit will be there except for those that asked for it not to be in there...plus all sources will be synced with SVN CoinOPS 2 R3. if you really cared +t+ you would ask them about this? its hypicritical and ill do my bit when this is done.....please dont ask me again they are in my sources that are availbe and ill spend time adding them when the others you support do the right thing.....+t+ if you want me to respect you tell me to my face and others faces about what you think of people that actively lock there sources?? including locking there names into the sources?? and tell me why you support the people that you know do this?? without questioning it?? do you think a list of credit names is better than the sources for keeping things alive?? nice simple and good question....if you answer this im sure your all good why do you hassle me yet never say anything about this....do you think dev like this...once again hop on msn and ask them to there face.....whats your thoughts on your source code being locked and have you stopped giving stuff out cause people have done this?
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 sorry guys another pointless night when I could be imporving the drivers.....please send me that test tommorrow for the N64 would be great....I also have some new games that need testing ill put them on FTP tommorrow.... ill be off msn the gf is calling...back on tommorrow
+ T + Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 if you really cared +t+ you would ask them about this? its hypicritical and ill do my bit when this is done.....please dont ask me again they are in my sources that are availbe and ill spend time adding them when the others you support do the right thing.....+t+ if you want me to respect you tell me to my face and others faces about what you think of people that actively lock there sources?? including locking there names into the sources?? and tell me why you support the people that you know do this?? without questioning it?? do you think a list of credit names is better than the sources for keeping things alive?? nice simple and good question....if you answer this im sure your all good why do you hassle me yet never say anything about this....do you think dev like this...once again hop on msn and ask them to there face.....whats your thoughts on your source code being locked and have you stopped giving stuff out cause people have done this?The sources issue is a tricky one so I'll try and answer your question as honestly as I can. I have to be careful here though as I don't want to be accused of hypocrisy. I never released alterations I made to the FBA-XXX sourcecode until I stopped working on it despite requests from a number of people. I can see both sides of the sourcecode issue here. Presuming you're talking about madmab's build of XPort's emulators, you could definitely argue that they should be open source but even XPort himself didn't release the sources to his emulators while he was actively working on them. Also I think CoinOPS may be partly to blame here as well. I don't know for sure but I suspect one of the reasons madmab hasn't released his sources is because he doesn't want the work he's done ending up in CoinOPS. I remember nes6502 saying he didn't want the Final Burn core to be a part of CoinOPS, but you added it anyway and that's when I started to have reservations about using CoinOPS myself. So while, on the one hand, I would like to see open sources all round, on the other I do understand why he's possibly holding them back. The other thing is, you're not really in a position to demand open sources when you don't release an updated sourcecode for each new CoinOPS release. I know you released an old source a long time ago but that isn't the point. Truly open source means a full compilable sourcecode with every new build and you don't make this available so you're not exactly leading from the front here. I think the idea of madmab's name on the main menu of those emulators is more about letting people know which version they're using (i.e. "Madmab Edition v1.0" as opposed to XPort's original). It helps to avoid confusion and at least he hasn't changed or tried to hide the name of the original emulator (Neogenesis is still called Neogenesis). And the crucial point is that XPort's name is always there too as part of the skins and intro videos so I have no problem with that at all. I'd be fine with your name coded into the CoinOPS as long as the original developers were all credited within the UI and as long as the names of the all the emulators you're using are shown. You need to address the fact that many people simply assume CoinOPS is one big emulator coded by you that just runs games for multiple systems. I know you've never said this, but you do nothing to set that record straight either and I think it's your duty to your fellow developers (on whose shoulders you're standing) to see that they get the credit and not you. I hope that's answered your question.
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 14, 2011 Author Posted June 14, 2011 ive released about 10 lots of source code and xbins refused to upload it...I change my build weekly and there is gigs and gigs of sources so I dont have the time to keep the sources up to date...if people want them for valid reasons they get them...and at times they are released I know of 3 dev that think your wrong about source...two by far are the main people why final burn xxx was there...I see they are both credited now I look ...you will know who they are.... but its good to know you think this way....I dont credit anyone and ask the dev if they want credit the only ones that did where surreal even if gogo doesnt get credit and his name is all though sources....if you play surreal a file is created called credit.txt in the main CoinOPS folder....this is an unaltered credit file by them....the real dev know who they are...they know I dont add my name to the build... I know of one dev that stopped working on drivers etc cause of people that refused to release sources not refused to release credit....and other that thinks its really wrong....ask them yourself you know who they are...you must want the true dev to stop giving all the entire scene stuff not just one emu ill print there poilicy on sources tonight for you...+t+ and read it well...it doesnt mention credit it mentions sources.....so its nice you make your own rules up but you dont seem to agree with what the dev want? and go the distance to push your case.....a simple search for final burn or xport release will show you there views...nothing about credit just all about releasing the sources so everything can continue....if you really want to spin those words +t+ you can but they are written on there web sites front pages for you to see...ill also give you public discussion about sources and show you how it effects the dev when you work the way you guys do....... peace though and best of luck then ill leave it up to you....remember these are facts +t+ and you can ask them yourself....I know you know what im talking about.....go after me you are and ignor the first page of dev wishes
+ T + Posted June 14, 2011 Posted June 14, 2011 ive released about 10 lots of source code and xbins refused to upload it...I change my build weekly and there is gigs and gigs of sources so I dont have the time to keep the sources up to date...if people want them for valid reasons they get them...and at times they are released I know of 3 dev that think your wrong about source...two by far are the main people why final burn xxx was there...I see they are both credited now I look ...you will know who they are.... but its good to know you think this way....I dont credit anyone and ask the dev if they want credit the only ones that did where surreal even if gogo doesnt get credit and his name is all though sources....if you play surreal a file is created called credit.txt in the main CoinOPS folder....this is an unaltered credit file by them....the real dev know who they are...they know I dont add my name to the build... I know of one dev that stopped working on drivers etc cause of people that refused to release sources not refused to release credit....and other that thinks its really wrong....ask them yourself you know who they are...you must want the true dev to stop giving all the entire scene stuff not just one emu ill print there poilicy on sources tonight for you...+t+ and read it well...it doesnt mention credit it mentions sources.....so its nice you make your own rules up but you dont seem to agree with what the dev want? and go the distance to push your case.....a simple search for final burn or xport release will show you there views...nothing about credit just all about releasing the sources so everything can continue....if you really want to spin those words +t+ you can but they are written on there web sites front pages for you to see...ill also give you public discussion about sources and show you how it effects the dev when you work the way you guys do....... peace though and best of luck then ill leave it up to you....remember these are facts +t+ and you can ask them yourself....I know you know what im talking about.....go after me you are and ignor the first page of dev wishesI know exactly what you're talking about. I'm not saying your wrong and I'm not trying to make rules. But you asked me for my personal view on sources and I gave it to you. I know the devs you mean and I know they believe strongly in open source. But if any developer feels their code is being used in a way they don't approve of then it's up to them to say and not for you or anyone else to be their spokesman. I'd be the first one to support the wishes of a developer in terms of what is and is not done with their code. Since I think we're still talking about madmab's emulators then I understand that XPort would probably want the sources released with the builds. But then, as I said before, XPort kept his sources to himself until he'd finished his work on the emulators, then he released all the sources at once. I think, given those circumstances, he would at least have to allow madmab the opportunity to do the same thing in the same way. I don't know anything about the Surreal sources and if they're available or not. I would hope that they are and that Gogo is properly credited for his work on that project, but I haven't even tried the new Surreal yet so I don't know. And again I'll mention that (even though you're not necessarily wrong here) I think you're on shaky ground putting this argument forward when your own project is not open source. You can make excuses about people who ask for them get them and other nonsense but at the end of the day, open source means that when you release a build, you release the sourcecode that you compiled it from. This isn't as difficult as you make out and I think your argument would be much stronger if you practised as you preached. It's true that very few developers have a policy on being credited where there code is used, but for me it's a matter of respect and not creating misunderstanding that leads to you getting credit for work that isn't yours. It's just common decency. And as I already mentioned I felt that when you used nes6502's code against his wishes you crossed a line and CoinOPS has left a bad taste in my mouth ever since and has left me questioning both your methods and your motives. I'm sure I'm not alone there and I'm also fairly sure that this is one of the reasons why madmab's (and possibly Surreal's?) sources have been kept private. Basically I think the wishes of all developers need to be taken into consideration. The original developers have the right to say sources should be open, but the current coders who have taken up the mantle should also have the right to prevent the work they are doing from being used by someone that (by all appearances) wants to take all the credit for it. I agree that all of this is the sort of thing that stops developers developing and none of us wants that. It's a shame there doesn't appear to be any compromise in sight.
BritneysPAIRS Posted June 15, 2011 Author Posted June 15, 2011 all good +t+ I was just pointing out....people are breaking the base of open sources....and I know iq wouldnt agree with this....I know final burn is nearly all his baby looking though the sources and I know what his terms of agreement is.... I also know that you guys twist this...ill add one for you but most dont care...I always credit people on each release if they helped.....eg below is one release **** CoinOPS EPIC R4 (Standalone Release) ******** RELEASED added fast PSIKYO core for many games with sound....strikers II and strikers III etcadded fast Daraku Tenshi - The Fallen Angels with soundadded fast Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2 with soundadded fast Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2 with soundadded fast Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2 Plus with soundadded all CPS3 games and all CPS3 No-CD games in final burn core for ram upgraded boxesadded all PGM games in final burn core for ram upgraded boxes (included ddp2 ddp3 ketsui espgunda KOV2 martial m etc)added DDcrew in final burn core for ram upgraded boxesjourney now playable in mameknuckle bash 2 now playable in mameRecalhorn now playableCommand War now playableDouble Dragon 1 fix ending (I hope seems that way)Changed the way viusally show times played is used and controlledChanged the aspect ratio for basic users and works for Arcades and Consoles with one clickRemoved alot of bugs from V3Linked the Aspect ratios correction of arcades and consoles and moved it to basic settingsMoved advanced arcade aspect ratios like pixel perfect etc to advanced settingsAdded New Romstatus to tagging many different waysAdded New games to catagoriesAdded New games and alot of Older supported games to Final Burn Cores (speed related) where it is seen fit to do soFixed C64 BootingFixed auto resize of GB games changing in and out of Aspect CorrectionSome tidy ups drivers added DRIVER( kbash2 ) DRIVER( recalh ) DRIVER( commandw ) DRIVER( Ket )DRIVER( Keta )DRIVER( Ketb )DRIVER( Espgal )DRIVER( Thegladpcb )DRIVER( Ddp2 )DRIVER( Ddp2101 )DRIVER( Ddp2102 )DRIVER( Ddp3 )DRIVER( Ddp3v100 )DRIVER( Ddp3v101 )DRIVER( Ddp3d )DRIVER( Ddp3blk )DRIVER( Martmasc )DRIVER( Martmast )DRIVER( Kov2 )DRIVER( Kov2106 )DRIVER( Kov2p )DRIVER( Kov2p205 )DRIVER( warzard )DRIVER( sfiii )DRIVER( jojo )DRIVER( jojoba ) DRIVER( jojobaa )DRIVER( sfiii2 )DRIVER( jojoan ) // NO CD VERSIONDRIVER( jojon ) // NO CD VERSIONDRIVER( jojoban ) // NO CD VERSIONDRIVER( Jojobane ) // NO CD VERSIONDRIVER( redeartn ) // NO CD VERSIONDRIVER( redearth )DRIVER( sfiii2n ) // NO CD VERSIONDRIVER( sfiii3n ) // NO CD VERSIONDRIVER( sfiii3 )DRIVER( sfiiin )DRIVER( sf3 ) NOTE FOR EPIC USERS : sfiii3 rom pic and video now needs to be renamed as sf3.zip sf3.png sf3.xmv this is due to sfiii3 is now being used by the final burn coreNOTE Please for each game I wish to know if it runs on an Xbox with 128Megs of ram and how well (also on the trusty ones) Thanks to IQ as usual for his help.....although alot of work was put in by me without IQ this would have never been possible in the first place this is added anytime he helps even tohugh he says he doesnt care or want it...if he wanted it would be in anyway he wanted it....Everyone that helps thats asks gets this....I know the sources are the way to keep things alive...HK didnt release his and that was against mames wishes and against xports wishes.....also against mine ebsay and bendermike all of which put time into this...I dont keep on about this though...its not what keeps me going...its a shame though.... We both know why the xtras team come at me about this...and I know they are not holding there end up and you know this to be true as well...but you bias it against me....when I follow what is asked by the terms and they dont...I just dont follow your rules....my sources could easly be used now to up grade mame .72 on the 360 and that is alot due to IQ but also alot due to me...I wouldnt care about credit and it would be nice just for a thanks to me personally and then nice to see people use it.... you know people are quickly forgotten in this business and no one really cares who did what.....its nice to share and keep the thing alive....instead naming the product as your own...which I never do and not releasing sources....I think you know this is worse than me....but ill release a credit file soon or you can create one and ill mod it and add to the public build alot of people with no skills around claiming stuff but I know its holding the scene back...more than they think.....and I know this for a fact just cause people can rename screenshot and dont want others to progress if it means they lose respect....doesnt make it right for them to slow open source dev to the world...as it can be used in alot more places than the old xbox.....they dont even listen to people that have served the scene with the most beloved stuff ever and achieving the impossible to all but a few people in the world these dev have and do close there sources at times because of behavours as mentioned above that you have no issues with......you want to teach me repect when I ask them what they want and I honour there terms and ask them there terms...then you expect me to listen to you and follow your rules....you have heard from one of them, id hope its left at that....ill follow any rules iq sets down to me and ignor others that really have no place asking for respect....im sorry but you know this is trueyou know the people you support are hurting things moving forward and you know they dont have the skills and arnt in the same leage as iq...yet you would rather the scene suffers if it means I fail and you know in the end thats actually sad for everyone but still I know you have a desire to do this....its up to you ill keep going anyways as a hobby just like iq said it will be the innocent that suffer Over and out
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