New Xbox Mame

[BritneysPAIRS]

you know you guys are alot smarter than to decryt this stuff its all good I honestly dont really understand...good luck guys im sorry Ive done such a crappy job

[BritneysPAIRS]

Now i know we have "ConOps" which is in fact MameoX/MamedoX re-named.

But it's old and badly assembled and has more patches than a MicroSoft OS.

 

I don't hate CoinOps and have no i'll feeling toward you BP, never have.

The emulator is good, you are a good coder.

 

is it me or is this flip flop talk thats just trying to confuse me....cause I have no idea where you are coming fromyour statements are inconsisant

 

anyway you will soon be able to prove how good you are and how little I did (I see neosource has code for final fight hack its a 10sec job to add that should be your first patch many would like it...ill hope to add it to Showcase for everyone)

[wicked_dumbo_octobus]

[cba.gy]

@searius

 

You can say anything you like matey, it's up to you.

Im certainly not frowning on your opinions and i see your point and its a valid one.

When i said youve answered yourself what i meant was your statement was more of an oxymoron.

However, not to worry.

And for the record i too use CoinOps for my old school games that FBL doesn't "yet" support.

I will continue to do so until such time they are added to FBL.

I prefere the FBL route as it is built on a newer core and seems more future proof.

0.135+ roms will always be available but the same can't be said for 0.84 roms !

Plus the Dynamic skin engine rocks. Its the way forward.

 

On a side note, i don't believe we've seen the last version of FBL !

Now this is just my opinion, and not based on any conversations with anyone.

 

@BP lol. I'd rather chew off my own testicles. And no im not trying to confuse you, you do that enough for everybody. lol.

I dont hate you, never have. I love the emulator, always have.

Edited December 27, 2009 by cba.gy

[searius]

You don't seem to understand. There is a very real likelihood that you will not be getting any further Xbox support form the people who actually lended it their talent due to this latest action taken (again) by BP. I know you like his stuff and you're a casual fan of his, but the Xbox Scene has always been about more than just his app.

 

Put bluntly, if no developer besides him had ever worked on any XBox apps, then you would not have any XBox emulators. That is the reality of the situation. You love the games. Without the developers who brought MAME, SNES, Genesis, KI, FBA, N64, etc there would be no games for you, no MAME on your Xbox, no nothing. That's all there is to it.

 

What do I care who works on the stuff so long as someone does? You seem to be taking the position that these devs are irreplaceable? I believe there'll always be people prepared to code stuff for the greater good, ie plebs like me and isn't this what this thread is purporting to be about? So yeah I don't understand the hostility/fear surrounding BP and CoinOps. I am well aware of the earlier mame for xbox ports I used them for years.

[BritneysPAIRS]

he believes it as well

 

 

 

added in this it will get into showcase cheers anyone who built it

 

http://neosource.1emu.net/forums/index.php?topic=1267.0

 

YouTube Video

 

nice easy patch thanks Ashura-X and JacKc and anyone else involved

 

 

anyway the above patch makes sense to me this makes no sense and goes in circles I know you guys understand what your talking about but I dont have a clue really...searius I agree with what you say even though its not 100percent support its all good

[deadcalm1]

What do I care who works on the stuff so long as someone does? You seem to be taking the position that these devs are irreplaceable? I believe there'll always be people prepared to code stuff for the greater good, ie plebs like me and isn't this what this thread is purporting to be about? So yeah I don't understand the hostility/fear surrounding BP and CoinOps. I am well aware of the earlier mame for xbox ports I used them for years.

 

You seem to be choosing to miss the point intentionally. That is quite fine. Time will tell how many devs are interested in working for BP. If you don't help him, he literally "takes" your contributions as his own anyway.

 

I also used the earlier MAME ports for years, but as I said the Xbox Scene is not just about MAME. If it was, then BP would not be adding code from other apps that are dedicated to the hardware I named. You can condone BP and his antics however much you like. But coding for the greater good is not the same as coding for BP's good. Users like you are more than likely the majority. But you all need to try to take off the blinders of selfishness that are making you shortsighted for a moment.

 

Well, maybe not. Think how you want to. The developers understand the point I'm trying to make. Nes6502 especially. Let's see if BP can keep your scene alive Searius. Give him all the validation he needs. There are many more people out there like you. Your input is welcome.

Edited December 27, 2009 by deadcalm1

[BritneysPAIRS]

Im gone dude im in the final tests I wont be keeping shit alive ... its up to you guys now

[searius]

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I also used the earlier MAME ports for years, but as I said the Xbox Scene is not just about MAME. If it was, then BP would not be adding code from other apps that are dedicated to the hardware I named. You can condone BP and his antics however much you like. But coding for the greater good is not the same as coding for BP's good. Users like you are more than likely the majority. But you all need to try to take off the blinders of selfishness that are making you shortsighted for a moment.

 

Well, maybe not. Think how you want to. The developers understand the point I'm trying to make. Nes6502 especially. Let's see if BP can keep your scene alive Searius. Give him all the validation he needs. There are many more people out there like you. Your input is welcome.

 

Sorry I thought this was post about mame and not about the Scene in general. I do like to condone anyone's efforts to keep mame going across multiple platforms and xbox obvioulsy, and I don't care how big/small a contribution might be it should be commended in my view. So like I said earlier I commend the intentions of this post to propose more mame goodness - be it from anyone, they get my respect. That's all.

[deadcalm1]

Im gone dude im in the final tests I wont be keeping shit alive ... its up to you guys now

 

How many times have u said that? You will surely come out for another grand larceny if the opportunity presented itself. Pissing off other truly skilled devs who have a LOT of new things to offer is worse than piecing together an app of their existing work and releasing it underground through some fanboy of yours just to get credit.

 

People aren't realizing this to their own detriment.

[+ T +]

And another perfectly valid and potentially interesting thread is turned into a crapfest.

 

It's not BP that's to blame for this one, his first comment could have easily been ignored. Can we just pull all the hating and venom-spitting back a bit so that this forum might actually have a chance of becoming worth reading again? How do you expect any developer to take a request for a new port of MAME seriously when this is what it's based on?

 

You've killed your own thread, but hopefully not the idea. <_>

[deadcalm1]

Sorry I thought this was post about mame and not about the Scene in general. I do like to condone anyone's efforts to keep mame going across multiple platforms and xbox obvioulsy, and I don't care how big/small a contribution might be it should be commended in my view. So like I said earlier I commend the intentions of this post to propose more mame goodness - be it from anyone, they get my respect. That's all.

 

The people who create and develop these emulators should get their credit too. Just as the makers of the games got their credit when the games were released years ago -- through sales, user reviews, and critical acclaim. Nobody does anything for free, even if it is "free" for me or you. If someone worked a 9 to 5 making something I had no interest in buying or using, I'd still say they should get their due credit/compensation for it. If they don't or someone steals their work and passes it off as theirs indirectly, then the result is usually a cessation of the work being done. It's pure logic.

 

But anyway like you said, that's all. The relevance of this issue to the thread is, no one is going to step up and do an Xbox MAME core update without some serious thought and reservations about what happened today with BP. There's how your beloved MAME goodness is being hindered. The core is indeed ancient on all Xbox Mame versions, ConOPS included.

 

It will be a miracle if someone chooses to deal with this problem. MAME for the Xbox needs a core update more than any other tinkering around in other areas. Who's going to do it just so BP can take it and call it ConOPS R6 Showcase Reignite Plus Extra? Devs used to show each other a lot more respect and the Scene benefitted for everyone. It matters that that environment is pretty much gone.

[BritneysPAIRS]

love it when new people tell me about how things are and used to be as if they actually know and i actually dont know....it great to see the passion that makes them actually know what they havent been around for at least one person finds it amusing

 

wonder if you know what happened to Kennedy?

[cba.gy]

Agreed +T+ , probably a lot of dismay floating around out there.

A good workable version will probably take more than one dev's input !

Will recent events put a stop to collaberations ?

I was hoping the thread would pull the community together and also gauge some opinions.

Its obvious that some users feel strongly about whats happening and other users don't give a shit.

That's fine. In a way a result either way.

Whether users were aware of it or not they were voicing a positive "yes" to a modern version.

Emotional heat is sometimes the way to get a persons true opinion/feelings on a matter.

Edited December 27, 2009 by cba.gy

[deadcalm1]

love it when new people tell me about how things are and used to be as if they actually know and i actually dont know....it great to see the passion that makes them actually know what they havent been around for at least one person finds it amusing

 

wonder if you know what happened to Kennedy?

 

So my account date tells you how long I've been around? You agreed with Searius. He says he's used MAME for years (and I believe him on that), even though his account was made here in '08. I'm not new. I've been around for quite a while. Long enough to finally see that everything people said about you was true.

 

You see that this topic is meant to be a petition for a core update. I ask again, why have you not done one for as long as you've had MAME all to yourself? You see Cbagy and most people here hoping someone does it, but why can't you do it? Oh that's right, youve done all you can do with CoinOps. Out of respect for +T+ as a developer, I won't go any further with you.

 

In the end, I give my support to an update of Xbox MAME in the end CBagy. I support your petition.