BritneysPAIRS Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 It that time again....I have moved CoinOPS Ingite on a bit features wise with 5 or so newer builds, adding true features.... so its time for another poll. Any feedback is welcome but please no flame wars, its just for info grabbing so I know where im at. Cheers
Dragon Ninja Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 CoinOPS is taking the big lead. I can see why.
The-Ice-Man Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 I clicked to see the results before voting, and now I can't actually vote. I'd have probably voted for CoinOps even though I haven't tried the new release. In release 1 overall CoinOps ran most games better, which is the main thing. I did like the overall layout better in MameoX128 Plus, with L and R used to switch between option categories, and the fact that nothing was hidden, as in no advanced or secret options that need to be turned on to access things. Two votes isn't that big a lead by the way.
BritneysPAIRS Posted July 27, 2009 Author Posted July 27, 2009 well ice that will never be going back ever. you can put the old mamedox default.xbe and skin folder in CoinOPS and everything will work like you said old school. The games will run the same as coinOPS
The-Ice-Man Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 Really? Wouldn't putting an old xbe in undo all the new features that you've added? Anyway I'm not suggesting you go back to that interface. The way screenshots are displayed behind the game list in CoinOps for example is much nicer than the way they displayed in MameoX. Saying that I don't really have an accurate point of reference for how things actually look in CoinOps now. I'm assuming it looks basically the same, but R4 could have an interface filled with boobies for all I know, having not tried it. The only thing I really liked about MameoX over CoinOps was the fact that all the options were there for you to edit, and the categories helped. A video section for all the video related options, a memory section for all the memory related options and so on. Last time I used CoinOps I remember seeing options all mixed up together with their category written in capitals next to them, like 'VIDEO Sync smoothing' on the hidden settings for example. I always thought that looked ugly.
Gilou9999 Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 only better thing is the history.dat, coinops beat it in all the points i think(more games,720p support,videos previews,...)
darknior Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 I'm agree with you two lolHISTORY.DAT, MOVES.DAT and options displayed by categories Thanks
BritneysPAIRS Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 never happening my side its clutter all features are coded just not in GUI.... and its not even on the think about mode. I looked at it and its all dos rubbish to me.
BritneysPAIRS Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 just change the catver.ini with the one from hk and rescan it will have all the same amount of cats..... about 230 of them I think also if you read the readme you would find selecting this stuff is alot easier on CoinOPS than hk which has a shocking interface....press Y plus up or down to skip a cat thats painfull and required in hk...also to get to sort by cat you have to scroll though types, no fast key like coinops, I dont know how a person that comments alot hasnt really looked into stuff very well. But hey any comments are good but im sorry I kind of have to take this one as unresearched (god that sounds bad..... but it is what it is)
The-Ice-Man Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 just change the catver.ini with the one from hk and rescan it will have all the same amount of cats..... about 230 of them I think also if you read the readme you would find selecting this stuff is alot easier on CoinOPS than hk which has a shocking interface....press Y plus up or down to skip a cat thats painfull and required in hk...also to get to sort by cat you have to scroll though types, no fast key like coinops, I dont know how a person that comments alot hasnt really looked into stuff very well. But hey any comments are good but im sorry I kind of have to take this one as unresearched (god that sounds bad..... but it is what it is)I'm a little confused, which post is this in response to?
BritneysPAIRS Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 sorry dude quote "MameoX128 Plus" with L and R used to switch between option categories, it actually fast scrolls though the list like CoinOPS, so I find it hard to trust in your knoweldge. I will try but you can check this stuff for yourself. If catergies didnt show in CoinOPS scan the roms again after first boot this has been discussed many times as it has catagoies setup and and can actually be skiped via left/right and not by holding Y+Up or Y+down like hk build. You can also check this stuff but I have again I cant get it to work like you say sorry
The-Ice-Man Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 (edited) Oh, well I thought that's how the options list worked in MameoX128, it's been a while since I've used it. I do remember it being some sort of left and right affair when you went into options. Probably the dpad then. You select options, then press left or right to switch between the different option categories. I knew that L and R fast scroll on the game list in MameoX128, and I'm sure you're right that it does in the options menu too. I just remembered wrong. Like I said I haven't used either MameoX or CoinOps in a while. As for game categories, we weren't talking about those. They're fine in CoinOps. We were just talking about option categories. Like video options, display options, sound options, network options, that sort of thing. The sorting methods for the games are all fine in CoinOps. Like you say, better than in MameoX. Edited July 28, 2009 by The-Ice-Man
BritneysPAIRS Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 Left/Right tigger switchs though the catergoies in options in both EMUs..... it has alot more options than hks and I streamlined it alot or else I would had to have 20 catergoies of options I hid some for sure, cause people keep make bad mistacks and asking me about stuff so for them those options are hidden away...although they just need to read the readme to access them. There are alot of GUI settings for sure in CoinOPS compaired with hk build but most people just need the stuff in basic settings...most of which arnt avaible in hk build. The other options are only for people like fum who loves to tweak things, but I added alot more tweaks for him like adjust vert and horizontal game for widescreen. But most people dont need this stuff and actually dont change anything really from defaults. Anyways I take it onboard your thoughts on settings, I was going to do another overhaul but in the other direction....merging multiple buttons onto one button to try and remove one page of settings, you can see an example of this in new way to turn on/off added fav games and also on the background music selector, it used to use 2 buttons now it uses one
The-Ice-Man Posted July 28, 2009 Posted July 28, 2009 So it is L and R triggers for switching option categories in MameoX. And yes I remember now, CoinOps is the same but with only 3 pages. I understand why you hide options, and that's fine, I guess I like to tweak things myself too, and I'm the only person in my house who even knows what an emulator is so it's fine to have all the options activated for me. I've just looked at CoinOps R3, (Dunno if things are different in R4) and looking at it, here's how I'd organise things in the settings menu. Bare in mind I'm just saying this is how I'd do it, not how you should do it. I'd have a page called Interface, and on that page I'd have all the options you have marked with INTERFACE, along with the ones marked FAVOURITES and the ones marked LOCK GAMES. Then I'd have a page called Video, and on that page I'd have all the options you have marked VIDEO, as well as ARTWORK and the ones marked WIDESCREEN ASPECT RATIO. Then I'd have a page for AutoFire, which would have all the AUTOFIRE settings. Then a page called Memory, which has all the VIRTUAL MEMORY options. Lastly a Misc page, with the BACKGROUND MUSIC, SPLASH SCREEN and SCREENSAVER options. Then for the options you consider advanced, they should appear under those said pages, but only after pressing a button. So you could have an icon in the corner saying press white to display advanced options, and when you press it the advanced options appear under those pages. Since the VM settings shouldn't be messed with unless you know what you're doing, the Memory page would be hidden entirely until pressing white. Having things set up like that would eliminate the need for the ugly looking CAPITAL markers. Anyway, that's just an opinion, and after all, this thread is supposed to be about how CoinOps is better than MameoX or vise versa. And when it comes down to it, how the settings page is displayed isn't really too important when comparing two emulators. Like I said, the way the options is set out in MameoX was the only thing I liked better than CoinOps. For the people who have actually voted for MameoX over CoinOps, what is it you like about it better?
BritneysPAIRS Posted July 28, 2009 Author Posted July 28, 2009 noted but not going to happen if people want settings alot ill move it to the basic page otherwise the rest of the settings are clutter and are normally not shown....99 percent of people its all they need and if not ill move it into the basic settings. it is noted but it wont be happening my side as its now a basic/advanced setting system rather than a all settings on diff pages model and I wont be going back... But each to there own
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