Lucandrake Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Apologize for my mistakes or else I'll commit more! Stupidity is the most amazing thing in the world. If you have a bb gun in the playground, and everyone's asking you to stop shooting near them (so that they won't get shot), how are you going to respond when everybody starts yelling at you?
Agozer Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 North Korea has never really played by the rules, and continues to bend the rules while pretending that nothing is their fault.
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 World: Hey, yeah, remember that nuclear disaster that you guys had with that train and all?N.K.: Nope, never happened. They're asking for it.
Inky Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 they are asking for it, until we go in there and kick ass, then you'll all be like:"oh america, why are you throwing your weight around? you're not the global police! stay out of their business!" yeah, flock em, and any countries in striking distance.
iq_132 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I highly doubt the US will ever make any military advances on North Korea. Most likely they will do something massively stupid and piss off the Chinese. North Korea will then be the new Tibet (and you know how wonderful the Chinese occupation of Tibet has been for the Tibetians lol).
ken_cinder Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I highly doubt the US will ever make any military advances on North Korea. Most likely they will do something massively stupid and piss off the Chinese. North Korea will then be the new Tibet (and you know how wonderful the Chinese occupation of Tibet has been for the Tibetians lol). I really doubt this, considering how vocal the Chinese have been with NK. The Chinese are PISSED, and being the closest thing NK has to a "friend" I don't think their tantrum is going to get them anywhere.If anything, I forsee China stepping on some NK toes. Then if China doesn't get their way, everyone else has free range to help them get it.
iq_132 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I highly doubt the US will ever make any military advances on North Korea. Most likely they will do something massively stupid and piss off the Chinese. North Korea will then be the new Tibet (and you know how wonderful the Chinese occupation of Tibet has been for the Tibetans lol). I really doubt this, considering how vocal the Chinese have been with NK. The Chinese are PISSED, and being the closest thing NK has to a "friend" I don't think their tantrum is going to get them anywhere.If anything, I foresee China stepping on some NK toes. Then if China doesn't get their way, everyone else has free range to help them get it. I can't imagine the Chinese ever letting anyone that close to their borders. They're a bit more on the incredibly paranoid (borderline schizophrenic) end of the spectrum.
ken_cinder Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I highly doubt the US will ever make any military advances on North Korea. Most likely they will do something massively stupid and piss off the Chinese. North Korea will then be the new Tibet (and you know how wonderful the Chinese occupation of Tibet has been for the Tibetans lol). I really doubt this, considering how vocal the Chinese have been with NK. The Chinese are PISSED, and being the closest thing NK has to a "friend" I don't think their tantrum is going to get them anywhere.If anything, I foresee China stepping on some NK toes. Then if China doesn't get their way, everyone else has free range to help them get it. I can't imagine the Chinese ever letting anyone that close to their borders. They're a bit more on the incredibly paranoid (borderline schizophrenic) end of the spectrum. They don't need to....... North Korea borders South Korea and lots of pretty blue ocean. Going in from China would actually not make any sense, Pyongyang is further from the Chinese border than the ocean on either side or the SK border.
iq_132 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I highly doubt the US will ever make any military advances on North Korea. Most likely they will do something massively stupid and piss off the Chinese. North Korea will then be the new Tibet (and you know how wonderful the Chinese occupation of Tibet has been for the Tibetans lol). I really doubt this, considering how vocal the Chinese have been with NK. The Chinese are PISSED, and being the closest thing NK has to a "friend" I don't think their tantrum is going to get them anywhere.If anything, I foresee China stepping on some NK toes. Then if China doesn't get their way, everyone else has free range to help them get it. I can't imagine the Chinese ever letting anyone that close to their borders. They're a bit more on the incredibly paranoid (borderline schizophrenic) end of the spectrum. They don't need to....... North Korea borders South Korea and lots of pretty blue ocean. Going in from China would actually not make any sense, Pyongyang is further from the Chinese border than the ocean on either side or the SK border. You realize the Korean conflict was partly a stalemate because the Chinese didn't want the American forces that near their borders, right? They gave the Koreans support partly for just that reason. You really think they'd just let that buffer zone fall? If anything, the Chinese would encourage the Americans/etc to come from the south [where the border is most heavily fortified and full of land mines] and then come from the North and taking possession of anything they felt a right to have, and they would very likely cover most of the country before the American "distraction" could progress very far.
ken_cinder Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 You realize the Korean conflict was partly a stalemate because the Chinese didn't want the American forces that near their borders, right? They gave the Koreans support partly for just that reason. You really think they'd just let that buffer zone fall? If anything, the Chinese would encourage the Americans/etc to come from the south [where the border is most heavily fortified and full of land mines] and then come from the North and taking possession of anything they felt a right to have, and they would very likely cover most of the country before the American "distraction" could progress very far. I don't recall saying anything to the contrary........wow If anything, I forsee China stepping on some NK toes. Then if China doesn't get their way, everyone else has free range to help them get it. If NK doesn't bend over for China, you can bet China will allow others to help make them. P.S. This isn't the 2 Korea's flocking with eachother this time around, this is NK flocking with everyone else. China sure as crap doesn't want a hostile neighbor that could cause China problems with everyone else.
Weirdy Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 if I remember correctly, they did this after testing the taepowdong (lol "dong") in '06 they were like "GIVE US AID RIGHT NOW OR WE TEST ANOTHER!"
iq_132 Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 You realize the Korean conflict was partly a stalemate because the Chinese didn't want the American forces that near their borders, right? They gave the Koreans support partly for just that reason. You really think they'd just let that buffer zone fall? If anything, the Chinese would encourage the Americans/etc to come from the south [where the border is most heavily fortified and full of land mines] and then come from the North and taking possession of anything they felt a right to have, and they would very likely cover most of the country before the American "distraction" could progress very far. I don't recall saying anything to the contrary........wowYou implied it with what you said. This debate tactic is very poor, please try something else next time. You really do use this every time you're on the defensive. If anything, I forsee China stepping on some NK toes. Then if China doesn't get their way, everyone else has free range to help them get it. If NK doesn't bend over for China, you can bet China will allow others to help make them. P.S. This isn't the 2 Korea's flocking with each other this time around, this is NK flocking with everyone else. China sure as crap doesn't want a hostile neighbor that could cause China problems with everyone else.Since when has China given one crap about what the world thinks of them? Seriously? They cracked down on the Tibetans right before the Olympics... If they have a neighbor they don't like, they'll simply go in and make that neighbor see things their way.
Hera Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 The way I see it (and I could very well be incorrect) is that N. Korea is China's whiney poor little neighbor. When things go wrong, China is there to wipe their ass. They are however getting fed up. Ol' Kim needs to take a back seat but he himself said that he's doing this to prove that human rights doesn't exist. He's trying to make some moot point. American troops have already been sent over there ready for what's next. I believe we all know. Japan has told them point blank that they would take precautionary measures and China has told them to back off. If N. Korea is going to do their thing, China isn't going to attack..they're too busy taking over other countries economically. They're just going to step back and let American troops go in with guns blazing like we always do. A brief ramble: This stuff makes me angry..so we attack a country that has so called "WMAs" and kill off the leader (who indeed was an a-hole but not the one responsible for our primary reason for going to war), totally ignoring the one who was responsible, then Americans cry over Iran and Russia and now that we have more of a threat, we're just dilly dallying along like it's no big deal. I think our military geniuses have things a bit ass backwards.
Wizard Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 It would be interesting to see North Korea destroyed. At least I won't mind. I might even get a laugh out of it.
Devia Eleven Posted April 30, 2009 Posted April 30, 2009 It would be interesting to see North Korea destroyed. At least I won't mind. I might even get a laugh out of it. That's fine, as long as I get to keep my Japans.
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