What ever happened to those guys making Zinc?

[Wizard]

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[Master Bigode]

http://rbelmont.mameworld.info/?p=210

[Wizard]

Well he's a depressing blok.

[ken_cinder]

Oh noes! Someone actually made use of ZiNc plugins to get some games working PROPERLY in MAME without requiring a 50ghz CPU! Oh noes!

 

I hate MAME devs, they're so anal.

[Robert]

He goes on about how development of Zinc won't proceed, but it doesn't seem to be proceeding anyway. There's been no releases for 2 years, I would dare to call it a dead project.

[mtsaint]

one of the reasons mame ++ stopped releasing build was cause the zinc dev labeled it an abomination and stated zinc developement would cease unless mame ++ stopped altogether

[Robert]

Which it did. But no progress on Zinc. That's why I say it was already dead.

[Wizard]

Major irony there. They can suck it for all I care at this point.

[Sybarite Paladin AxL]

Believe it or not, this is the thread I was searching for hehe... Too bad ZiNc was great in its day.

 

Now back on topic, is MAME++ better at running the games ZiNc runs now? And is it still being updated?

[Wizard]

The ironic thing is, even with MAME++ out of the picture, he still doesn't bother to do anything with Zinc.

 

Prove me wrong and I'll donate something to that.

 

No ax, Mame++ is dead because all it really added was online play (basically just made it kaillera enabled) from the Mame+ build.

 

Funny thing is, if any of the mame devs don't like something about ANY mame build, they'll say it's an abomination and that it shouldn't exist. Most of them are really stuck up bastards. Some of them are really nice though. I'm not gonna say any names other then Belmont's.

[MasterPhW]

The ironic thing is, even with MAME++ out of the picture, he still doesn't bother to do anything with Zinc.

 

Prove me wrong and I'll donate something to that.

 

No ax, Mame++ is dead because all it really added was online play (basically just made it kaillera enabled) from the Mame+ build.

No, MAME++ added something more special, it supports the closed source haardware renderers of Zinc and that made the games better looking and a lot faster.

Funny thing is, if any of the mame devs don't like something about ANY mame build, they'll say it's an abomination and that it shouldn't exist. Most of them are really stuck up bastards. Some of them are really nice though. I'm not gonna say any names other then Belmont's.

Yeah, I totally agree to this. They are great in coding but a lot seems to be stuck up bastards.

But MAME++ had really ONE big license disagreement: no sourcecode was released. The other to "don't link to closed source software (kaillera and pete's plugin)" and the Non-MAME games was nice either, but I don't know, why it needs to be closed down and then no new Zinc appears...

Btw: they wanted to make Zinc open source wih the new release, probably that's the problem, they have a totally messy source!

[Robert]

MAME++ source was released from time to time.

 

But mamedev also demanded that the source of the plugins be released, which is stupid because they are optional, not compiled into MAME++, and as said above, closed source.

 

ZiNc is totally dead but I would love to be proven wrong. But I don't think I will be.

 

This whole episode was just a mamedev tantrum, nothing good came out of it.

[Agozer]

R.Belmont and Co. occasionally show some progress pictures of PSX hardware games, but other than that, ZiNc's got no steam and that's a damn shame (no matter what the devs blurt out).

[Sybarite Paladin AxL]

Is there any ZiNc alternative? I remember it being a great emulator. And I remember setting its graphics filters to a great level back then. Those EX street fighters looked great!

[ken_cinder]

There's a reason I won't use MAME anymore.......and the things posted in here outline it. Most of the core MAME team are self righteous ego maniacal bastards.