New Capcom 2d Fighter - Sengoku Basara X

[BlackKnight]

Capcom recently announced development on an unnamed 2d fighter, and many speculated that this would be the ever-elusive Street Fighter 4, since it was specifically named '2d versus fighter'. This title has since been revealed as Sengoku Basara X or Devil Kings X for English localisations.

 

The title will be developed by an internal team at Arc System Works, known for the Guilty Gear franchise, and will boast hi-res 2d sprites. Stay tuned for more information.

 

Unfortunately, this scan is the only source I have at the moment. Until somewhere like The Magic Box reports, could anyone offer a translation?

 

 

Source: Famitsu.

[Agozer]

Hah, there's a fighter with a Ring Blade.

[BlackKnight]

The character wears green and those pantaloon things too. Yeh I smelt rip-off as well lol. I see SS and SC all over this thing.

[Wizard]

I just hoped it's balanced and doesn't warrent 8 upgrades.

[BlackKnight]

I just hoped it's balanced and doesn't warrent 8 upgrades.

 

Capcom and Arc man... what are the chances of that.

[JKKDARK]

damn i wanted marvel vs capcom 3

[Gryph]

At least it's something. I'm interested though.

[Wizard]

I just hoped it's balanced and doesn't warrent 8 upgrades.

 

Capcom and Arc man... what are the chances of that.

Is my sarcasm detector broken?

[Diso]

Looks pretty interesting. A lot of them have some pretty..unique weapons to be using.

[Mooney]

I'm a little bit interested... but yeah, there is some major ripping-off going on there.

[Date]

The character wears green and those pantaloon things too. Yeh I smelt rip-off as well lol. I see SS and SC all over this thing.

 

I must begin to question this claim of rip-off, since the 'character in the green', aka Motonori, has been wearing that same outfit since his release on July 21st, 2004 ; While the only SC character who wields a ringblade (Tira), appeared October 25th, 2005. His original weapon wasn't a ringblage, but rather.. Something entirely silly; A baton with paper charms. (It was changed in the sequel, Sengoku BASARA 2 to the ringblade.) One of the characters in the game uses a whip-sword, (See Hanbei ) does that make him a rip-off of Ivy? Nay.

 

"Oh my god, [this character] uses a sword, it must be a rip-off of [that character]!"

 

 

More on topic, however. Sengoku BASARA has been one of my favorite series of games since the original release, but seeing as the first two games were DW-style beat-em-ups (Though severely better than the DW/SW series), I'm entirely curious how the characters along with thier movesets will fit into a 2D game.

[BlackKnight]

The character wears green and those pantaloon things too. Yeh I smelt rip-off as well lol. I see SS and SC all over this thing.

 

I must begin to question this claim of rip-off, since the 'character in the green', aka Motonori, has been wearing that same outfit since his release on July 21st, 2004 ; While the only SC character who wields a ringblade (Tira), appeared October 25th, 2005. His original weapon wasn't a ringblage, but rather.. Something entirely silly; A baton with paper charms. (It was changed in the sequel, Sengoku BASARA 2 to the ringblade.) One of the characters in the game uses a whip-sword, (See Hanbei ) does that make him a rip-off of Ivy? Nay.

 

"Oh my god, [this character] uses a sword, it must be a rip-off of [that character]!"

 

 

More on topic, however. Sengoku BASARA has been one of my favorite series of games since the original release, but seeing as the first two games were DW-style beat-em-ups (Though severely better than the DW/SW series), I'm entirely curious how the characters along with thier movesets will fit into a 2D game.

 

Are you suggesting that a character being given a ringblade, as in Sengoku Basara, after SoulCalibur III was released (a game which is the first mainstream game to feature a character fighting with this weapon), is not a rip-off? All you've put down is that he was wearing green in 2004. Sor-ry. Doesn't change anything.

[Date]

The character wears green and those pantaloon things too. Yeh I smelt rip-off as well lol. I see SS and SC all over this thing.

 

I must begin to question this claim of rip-off, since the 'character in the green', aka Motonori, has been wearing that same outfit since his release on July 21st, 2004 ; While the only SC character who wields a ringblade (Tira), appeared October 25th, 2005. His original weapon wasn't a ringblage, but rather.. Something entirely silly; A baton with paper charms. (It was changed in the sequel, Sengoku BASARA 2 to the ringblade.) One of the characters in the game uses a whip-sword, (See Hanbei ) does that make him a rip-off of Ivy? Nay.

 

"Oh my god, [this character] uses a sword, it must be a rip-off of [that character]!"

 

 

More on topic, however. Sengoku BASARA has been one of my favorite series of games since the original release, but seeing as the first two games were DW-style beat-em-ups (Though severely better than the DW/SW series), I'm entirely curious how the characters along with thier movesets will fit into a 2D game.

 

Are you suggesting that a character being given a ringblade, as in Sengoku Basara, after SoulCalibur III was released (a game which is the first mainstream game to feature a character fighting with this weapon), is not a rip-off? All you've put down is that he was wearing green in 2004. Sor-ry. Doesn't change anything.

 

Honestly, if you wished to pick out a character because of it's weapon, I could easily say Sophitia is copying Link, because they both use a sword and shield. Oh lawd, Mitsurugi uses a katana! Obviously a rip-off of Haohmaru. You can pick any character out of -anywhere-, out of -any- series, and compare it to an entirely different character and call it a rip-off.

 

 

tl;dr version: There is no such thing as an entirely original character. Look at the whole story behind 'em, and not just the weapon.

 

(But at the same time, Motonari's weapon looks like Tira's, but isn't the same at all. The "Ring" is made up of two curved swords that he hold together, so it really isn't a ringblade at all.)

Edited July 19, 2007 by Date

[BlackKnight]

A lot more goes into character design than you seem to be giving the creators credit for.

 

You can find fighters dual wielding shields and small swords almost everywhere, and Haohmaru and Mitsurugi, both plain samurai stereotypes, aren't the best examples to base a derivative vs original debate on.

 

Find me 5 characters whose signature is a hula hoop-sized blade, one blade or two, and then I'll believe you. Until then, I maintain Tira's is a design that has been ripped off in Sengoku Basara.

[Date]

A lot more goes into character design than you seem to be giving the creators credit for.

 

You can find fighters dual wielding shields and small swords almost everywhere, and Haohmaru and Mitsurugi, both plain samurai stereotypes, aren't the best examples to base a derivative vs original debate on.

 

Find me 5 characters whose signature is a hula hoop-sized blade, one blade or two, and then I'll believe you. Until then, I maintain Tira's is a design that has been ripped off in Sengoku Basara.

 

 

Actually, in fandom's respect; Motonari's "signature" that he is recognized isn't his weapon, but rather the silly fish-shaped hat he wears. I will admit, Tira and Motonari are the only two characters I've seen who wield a ringblade of any sort, but, I still do say that you have to look at everything about the character before deeming it a rip-off.

 

 

(Also, entirely off topic; While Sengoku BASARA goes into the realm of 2D fighters, Guilty Gear is going into the realm of 3D beat-em-ups with the title Guilty Gear II Overture 'LQ scan')