What religion are you?

[Elazul Yagami]

1: That was me, not agozer

 

2: Go back and read, and read properly. DO NOT rearrange my words to suit your own thoughts.

 

ok i'll bite, look at the bold part.

 

Anyway, in the end, I think religion is nothing more than a control mechanism for most of you sheep out there to be handled. Religion needs to be removed from the face of the earth (No, not necessarily the people following them), like unions.....

 

i got the impression you were saying that those that follow a religon (like myself) are sheep.

[Ahmad89]

I dont think that all wars happening right now are religious war. Some for power some for money. And there has always been war so does that mean we have always been doomed

[ken_cinder]

1: That was me, not agozer

 

2: Go back and read, and read properly. DO NOT rearrange my words to suit your own thoughts.

 

ok i'll bite, look at the bold part.

 

Anyway, in the end, I think religion is nothing more than a control mechanism for most of you sheep out there to be handled. Religion needs to be removed from the face of the earth (No, not necessarily the people following them), like unions.....

 

i got the impression you were saying that those that follow a religon (like myself) are sheep.

 

I was, big deal, my view on how religion is focused and to whom. But I did not say dumb, my statement of dumb as all the religious wars, those involved in religious wars ARE indeed dumb, such a stupid thing to fight over.

And Ahmad89, any war fought over money or monetary items, with a guise of religion......is a farce. Think Ethiopia.

[Elazul Yagami]

I dont think that all wars happening right now are religious war. Some for power some for money. And there has always been war so does that mean we have always been doomed

 

i honestly believe 99% of "religious wars" were fought for other reasons.

the "religious" part was just a cover up.

[Elazul Yagami]

1: That was me, not agozer

 

2: Go back and read, and read properly. DO NOT rearrange my words to suit your own thoughts.

 

ok i'll bite, look at the bold part.

 

Anyway, in the end, I think religion is nothing more than a control mechanism for most of you sheep out there to be handled. Religion needs to be removed from the face of the earth (No, not necessarily the people following them), like unions.....

 

i got the impression you were saying that those that follow a religon (like myself) are sheep.

 

I was, big deal, my view on how religion is focused and to whom. But I did not say dumb, my statement of dumb as all the religious wars, those involved in religious wars ARE indeed dumb, such a stupid thing to fight over.

And Ahmad89, any war fought over money or monetary items, with a guise of religion......is a farce. Think Ethiopia.

 

big deal? last i knew, an insult no matter how trivial was still an insult, personally i'm not insulted, i'm just pointing it out.

 

so you're calling me a sheep because i follow a religion... so can i assume that you ALSO are a sheep because you're an atheist and you more or less conform to and follow the concept that religon is stupid/useless?

[ken_cinder]

Take it as an insult if you will, I find the forced concept of religion to be an insult. I believe religious views should be personal, and should stay inside the walls of ones own home or say, a church. It has no place in public society, as not everyone has the same views, even within the same religion.

And no, I'm no sheep, I believe what I want to believe, I don't conform to silly standards of "Atheism" and the views pinned on it.

[Ahmad89]

Take it as an insult if you will, I find the forced concept of religion to be an insult. And no, I'm no sheep, I believe what I want to believe, I don't conform to silly standards of "Atheism" and the views pinned on it.

 

I believe in my religion not because it is now forced on to me. I believe in it becuae i chose it to be right and because it think it is the right way of life. If i find something in my religion that i dont like or dont beleive in i can stop any time i want.

[Shibathedog]

discordianism

 

bwahahaha

[Mooney]

Take it as an insult if you will, I find the forced concept of religion to be an insult. And no, I'm no sheep, I believe what I want to believe, I don't conform to silly standards of "Atheism" and the views pinned on it.

 

I believe in my religion not because it is now forced on to me. I believe in it becuae i chose it to be right and because it think it is the right way of life. If i find something in my religion that i dont like or dont beleive in i can stop any time i want.

Just wondering... when you say you thought it was the "right" religion, does that mean you think all others are wrong?

[Shibathedog]

this topic was a really bad idea, we are just creating tension between us untill we hate each other and the community is destroyed and the site eventually implodes

[Robert]

Well, anytime a moderator or admin thinks it is getting out of hand, just close it. Easy.

 

so basically you're saying that all those that don't agree with your beliefs or opinions are sick in the mind?

 

Nope I never said that. I refer only to religion. I have no quarrel with the historical references in the bible and others, but when divine intervention enters the story, that's when I become sceptical and treat it as a fairy tale. Like all fairy tales, you need to differentiate between fantasy and reality. If you truly believe the fantasy, then yes, it by definition can be classed as a mental disease.

[Elazul Yagami]

Take it as an insult if you will, I find the forced concept of religion to be an insult. I believe religious views should be personal, and should stay inside the walls of ones own home or say, a church. It has no place in public society, as not everyone has the same views, even within the same religion.

And no, I'm no sheep, I believe what I want to believe, I don't conform to silly standards of "Atheism" and the views pinned on it.

cinder, sweet, we agree, i also believe religious veiws should be personal, and shouldn't be enforced on the society,but what does that hafta do with what you said?

 

like ahmad said, i believe what i want to believe, not what was forced on me, so how does that make someone like me different to you?

 

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Robert,

Nope I never said that. I refer only to religion. I have no quarrel with the historical references in the bible and others, but when divine intervention enters the story, that's when I become sceptical and treat it as a fairy tale. Like all fairy tales, you need to differentiate between fantasy and reality. If you truly believe the fantasy, then yes, it by definition can be classed as a mental disease.

 

1- you believe it's a fantasy, others don't believe it's a fantasy, prove it's a fantasy scientifically, then you can say that believing it is a disease.

 

2- ages ago, those that believed in scientific things were considered sick in the mind, such as those for example that believed man could fly were considered sick in the mind by those that thought it 'fantasy'

 

 

religion is a belief/opinion, you just said that those that DON"T agree with your belief (that religion is useless/fantasy) are sick in the mind.

[Robert]

1 - that is the wrong kind of test. I could say I can fly without mechanical aid, but just can't remember how. You could never prove me wrong. You need to prove that divine intervention is real and reproducible.

 

2 - Such is life.

[Elazul Yagami]

1- so since you can't prove it's fantasy scientifically, you ask me to prove that it's NOT fantasy?

ok, here's an example, reproduce for me hurricane katrina, EXACTLY like it occured, if you can't, it's fantasy.

 

2- i stated that to prove a point btw

[ken_cinder]

I call Shenanigans!