Official + Legal PS1 Emulation on the PSP!

[flowrent]

Are they really making an emulator ?

How will they handle the security issues ?

I'm thinking the emu will be integrated in a new firmware and the iso's will be modified somehow so that you won't be able to use your own iso's,just the ones you buy and d/l from them.If they have the balls to go through with it then they must have some serious security in mind.

 

On the other hand they could just port the games,so no emulation involved.This would be somewhat safer.

[Wizard]

If this is true and you can upload your games then the PSP will outsell the DS very fast.

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You know thats not true. Come on, even with all of PSP's extra crap, it still isn't winning by a fair margin.

 

I predict it will be like GC for the first week, then back into 2nd place.

[Daeval]

Y'know, as long as they had a way to make them un-tradeable (like maybe a piece of pc-software that did the ripping and made a specially watermarked image or something), it wouldn't be such a surprising move for them to let you play your old PS1 games. They already let you play them on the PS2, and reportedly on the PS3, so except for the technical aspects, it's not that big a leap.

[Mooney]

Maybe Sony just realized emulation and piracy were running rampant with all their systems, so they're trying to hide their shame by making it O.K. to play PS1 games. Bastards.

[Thraxen]

They aren't going to let people rip and play their own PSX games. That will never happen.

[Daeval]

They aren't going to let people rip and play their own PSX games. That will never happen.

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I think you're probably right about the first part - they're probably not going to let people rip their own games. They may let people play their own PS1 games games though, with the right infrastructure.

[Thraxen]

I think you're probably right about the first part - they're probably not going to let people rip their own games.  They may let people play their own PS1 games games though, with the right infrastructure.

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I still don't think what you're thinking will happen. I think what we will see is a selection of PS1 games that Sony has modified slightly to adapt to the PSPs controls. These games, as Sony stated, will be made available to download for some sort of fee.

 

Your idea about a specially designed PC program that watermarks rips for play on the PSP sounds nice, but I doubt Sony will do it for a couple of reasons. One, someone will figure out a way to allow the program to rip and watermark burned copies of games, and Sony won't want that. Two, no money for Sony. It might help move more systems out the door, but the systems cost Sony money. So Sony would have to be confident that people buying the systems to play PS1 games will actually buy enough legit PSP games or accessories to give Sony a profit.

[Daeval]

I think you're probably right about the first part - they're probably not going to let people rip their own games.  They may let people play their own PS1 games games though, with the right infrastructure.

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I still don't think what you're thinking will happen. I think what we will see is a selection of PS1 games that Sony has modified slightly to adapt to the PSPs controls. These games, as Sony stated, will be made available to download for some sort of fee.

 

Your idea about a specially designed PC program that watermarks rips for play on the PSP sounds nice, but I doubt Sony will do it for a couple of reasons. One, someone will figure out a way to allow the program to rip and watermark burned copies of games, and Sony won't want that. Two, no money for Sony. It might help move more systems out the door, but the systems cost Sony money. So Sony would have to be confident that people buying the systems to play PS1 games will actually buy enough legit PSP games or accessories to give Sony a profit.

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omg, a well-thought-out conversation. What is going on around here?

 

Well put. I wasn't implying that I actually thought all that would happen with this announcement though. I was just saying that there's already a precedent for backwards-compatability, and extending that to handhelds wouldn't be a huge leap if the technology was there. As you've pointed out, the technology isn't there at the moment. Most obviously, the hardware has the wrong number of buttons, making direct-emulation with ripped images entirely impractical, nevermind the potential piracy issues.

 

I guess you could sum up what I intented to say like this: If Sony could let you play your PS1 games on a handheld without endangering their IPs, I think they would. Obviously that "if" condition isn't met at the moment, for a number of reasons. I think this not because I think Sony is kindhearted, but because the extended library would be the same good business it is on the home consoles.

Edited March 19, 2006 by Daeval

[Thraxen]

Most obviously, the hardware has the wrong number of buttons, making direct-emulation with ripped images entirely impractical, nevermind the potential piracy issues.

 

I guess you could sum up what I intented to say like this:  If Sony could let you play your PS1 games on a handheld without endangering their IPs, I think they would.  Obviously that "if" condition isn't met at the moment, for a number of reasons.  I think this not because I think Sony is kindhearted, but because the extended library would be the same good business it is on the home consoles.

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I've been thinking about the button thing. They could possibly give the emulator itself a front end that would allow the user to configure the controls themselves... a menu where it would show the PS2 buttons and what you would like to map it to on the PSP. But I still think there might be some games, especially those requiring two analog sticks, that may have to be adapted in the game code itself.

 

But like I said, I think Sony would have to think about how profitable it would be to allow people to rip games they own. It doesn't really cost them anything on the home consoles to have backwards compatibility other than during the engineering phase of the next gen console itself. The reason is because no one is going to buy a PS2 just to play PS1 games. If that's all they wanted then they could get a PSOne for much cheaper. Plus it encourages your current user base to upgrade to the next generation.

 

But if they allow people to rip PS1 games for use on the PSP then you might actually have people who would buy the PSP just to be able to play PS1 games in a portable format. And if Sony is still losing money on the sales of the PSP hardware itself, then those customers would simply be losing Sony money. But if they think that enough of those customers might also buy PSP games and accessories to gain a profit overall, then, yeah, I could see where they might let people rip games they own.

Edited March 19, 2006 by Thraxen

[flowrent]

No,they won't settle with selling PSP games.They want money for PS1 ones too.

No way they will allow users to play their own iso's.

They give us the emulator and we play the games..haha..no way man.

What we're trying to figure out here is how they will do it.

Most likely they will use a mixture of emulating the game and porting the controls all packed up in a very secure way.

[L.S.D]

Speaking of game adaption, Final Fantasy series did not use that much buttons or second analog joystick. I would buy Final Fantasy VII, VII and IX immediately

[Shibathedog]

my two thoughts are

 

LACK OF BUTTONS AND MORE PORTING!?! ZOMG!?!?

 

and how can i play PSX games i already own on PSP? Will i have to purchase them again? screw that

[i l l m a t i c]

leaked ps1 emulator pics

 

http://pspupdates.qj.net/uploads/articles_...70_P4050035.jpg

 

http://pspupdates.qj.net/uploads/articles_...70_P4050043.jpg

 

if this is a legit image...$15 per game...

[Mooney]

>.< $15?? That would totally suck! I hope those a fake...