Diso Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 Rip to him. Hes being buried in Israel and he died in France All over news aka MSNBC
Gryph Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 RIP. I just hope violence doesn't break out in Israel and Palestine because of this.
random guy Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 I've heard some fundamentalist christians in America are CELEBRATING his death. Way to fan the flames of hate guys (not you guys, them)
Sturmvogel Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 His doctos were saying he'd recover. Well, Bush can't make any excuses now. He didn't like Arafat....now he's dead. Time to start fresh.
Aoshi Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 I think his death was induced by those trying to either remove him from power or by the ones who want to replace him, i have this feeling of an oncoming war approaching, or maybe im paranoid.
Swithin Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 You're paranoid. You might also be right, but you're not supposed to assume the worst. I am always on the side of oppressed populations. Therefore I consider myself strongly leaning to the Palestinian side in the debate over who has more legitimate grievances in Palestine/Israel. As such, Arafat curdled my blood. He is single-handedly the cause of so much death it isn't funny. A life of "service" doesn't excuse this - he made choices, knowingly, that killed people. Bad leader. Bad man. Not worth the RIP.
random guy Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 (edited) You're paranoid. You might also be right, but you're not supposed to assume the worst. I am always on the side of oppressed populations. Therefore I consider myself strongly leaning to the Palestinian side in the debate over who has more legitimate grievances in Palestine/Israel. As such, Arafat curdled my blood. He is single-handedly the cause of so much death it isn't funny. A life of "service" doesn't excuse this - he made choices, knowingly, that killed people. Bad leader. Bad man. Not worth the RIP.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually , Yasser Arafat did all he could to stop the terrorist atacks. Sure, he was originally a member of the PLO so technically a terrorist, by that standard Ariel Sharon was a terrorist. Arafat was just scapegoated by Bush because Bush didn't want the roadmap to peace, or at least he wanted peace only in a way that would benefit Israel as much as possible, so he needed an excuse not to negotiate with Palestine. Crunk, crunk, crunk goes the propaganda division, and suddenly Arafat is the worst terrorist in the world next to bin Laden. And 97% of Americans fell for it, surprise surprise. Edited November 11, 2004 by random guy
Agozer Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 I wonder what Aries Sharon will do now... In any case, the palestinians have lost a great leader. Rest in Peace.
random guy Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 I wonder what Aries Sharon will do now... In any case, the palestinians have lost a great leader. Rest in Peace.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually, it's Ariel. And I agree, RIP Arafat.
Agozer Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 I wonder what Aries Sharon will do now... In any case, the palestinians have lost a great leader. Rest in Peace.An honest typo.
OverlordMondo Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 A lot of people are, indeed, celebrating his death. Check this forum out... http://www.serebiiforums.com/newforums/sho...ead.php?t=41871 Most of this forum is strongly christian. I participate in debates there, but it's me against a million on most issues.
Agozer Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 A lot of people are, indeed, celebrating his death. Check this forum out... http://www.serebiiforums.com/newforums/sho...ead.php?t=41871 Most of this forum is strongly christian. I participate in debates there, but it's me against a million on most issues.Heh, those people are flocked up.
KyokugenKiss Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 there will never be peice in the middle east and this just made crap even worst
Swithin Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 Actually , Yasser Arafat did all he could to stop the terrorist atacks. Sure, he was originally a member of the PLO so technically a terrorist, by that standard Ariel Sharon was a terrorist. Arafat was just scapegoated by Bush because Bush didn't want the roadmap to peace, or at least he wanted peace only in a way that would benefit Israel as much as possible, so he needed an excuse not to negotiate with Palestine. Crunk, crunk, crunk goes the propaganda division, and suddenly Arafat is the worst terrorist in the world next to bin Laden. And 97% of Americans fell for it, surprise surprise.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, it's not exactly something to argue over, but... Ariel Sharon wasn't a 'terrorist', because his massacres were *state sponsored*, which historically is usually much much worse. It's surprising that he's actually on the right side in the settlement-withdrawal issue... whether that's a ploy or whether he's somehow miraculously reformed remains to be seen, but since I personally can't vote his clout away, I'll at least accept that he's not herding Palestinian refugees into hired fanatic anti-Muslim militias anymore. Anyway, if he's looking for redemption he's got a few lifetimes to go... but as long as he doesn't give it up, I'm not getting in his way. Second, I don't really care whether someone's called "terrorist" or not. It's not like a person's automatically a saint if no-one hangs that particular label on them. A person can only be judged by what they do and what they fail to do, not what people call them. Arafat's been around long before anyone knew Dubya, and he's been consistently militant - I would say "self-destructively so", except the only people he's been destroying are the Palestinians and a much smaller number of no less innocent Israeli civilians. This isn't a view I've picked up in the last 4 years, or off TV. I've been following this issue closely for 15 years, and my position on Arafat is unchanged. Arafat has *greatly* contributed to the negative opinion of Palestinians globally, and has basically done *nothing* to lead to peace - in fact quite the contrary. He's turned down chance after chance to avoid retributions, refugee camp raids, etc. He's a dumb, stubborn git. He thought it was fun to play chicken with Israel to the point he got his office building surrounded by tanks and his power cut out, while people were having heart-attacks inside, and guess what? He paints himself as the Hero Who Didn't Back Down. He's led his people to slaughter to keep that title. He's kept them living in a police state by forcefully "hogging the limelight" of Palestinian politics, all too happy to be Israel's poster-child for why it's Ok to bomb and bulldoze a poor and broken people. Arafat is the worst thing that could have happened to the Palestinians, and I say this having out and out wept for them many *many* times. Screw what the Bush administration says, I'm only thinking about all the people who are dead who shouldn't be. This guy smiled through it all. I don't celebrate people's deaths, hell, I don't even feel a wry superiority for surviving past them. I feel sad when someone dies, I'm a softie - but I sure as hell feel a lot sadder for all the people whose deaths this "militant media darling" could have prevented by not intentionally sabotaging every negotiative effort that's taken place over the years.
KyokugenKiss Posted November 11, 2004 Posted November 11, 2004 YES HE DESRVES TO DIE AND I HOPE HE BURNS IN HELL!!! COLD BLOOOOODED ps i said the same thing about Christopher Reeves people are so ignorant, when i was working today i hear stupid people trying to blame bush about the middle east but the thing is the US foriegn policy has been fuct up since the Truman administration and the US started all this crap by telling all the Jew Survivors to go back to Zion which is bullshit because they were in europe for centurys and why bo back and force the palestinians out of there home. but i still dont get why they cant live together in harmony those stupid ethnically biased mother fuuckers
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