shin_nihon_kikaku Posted September 21, 2004 Author Posted September 21, 2004 Thus, in history, the option "Other" was made.An 'other' option is way too broad and proves nothing. If someone voted for other it could mean anything. If other was winning the poll, does that mean Muscle Power is the fave? Does it mean Armor King is the fave? Or does it mean that a group of 5 different characters are the favourite? I see that Other is nearly winning in Kyokugenkiss just because ppl want to have a backlash against him and his (admittedly not very wide ranging) decisions as he missed all your "favourites" off.
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted September 21, 2004 Posted September 21, 2004 (edited) Please stop being a retard and write coherent sentences. yes, I know that you like Ramon very much.well that was mean and unexpected But it was needed judging after looking at your recent posts. Don't get me wrong, I like you and all so don't take things too personally. Just cool down a bit. hehehe you ppl actually think that if I write in CAPS I'm screaming or something hahahaha, you're taking this too seriously; I'm takin' it too seriously hehe;no offece taken or given... maybe I'm just pissed cuz I dun have a l33t sig likek'dash'zzzz If you like Armor King so much, vote for regular King. He is nearly the same.movewise maybe... play tekken tag tournament and see the difference... Edited September 21, 2004 by axl
Agozer Posted September 21, 2004 Posted September 21, 2004 Please stop being a retard and write coherent sentences. yes, I know that you like Ramon very much.well that was mean and unexpected But it was needed judging after looking at your recent posts. Don't get me wrong, I like you and all so don't take things too personally. Just cool down a bit. hehehe you ppl actually think that if I write in CAPS I'm screaming or something hahahaha, you're taking this too seriously; I'm takin' it too seriously hehe;no offece taken or given... maybe I'm just pissed cuz I dun have a l33t sig likek'dash'zzzz Then make a sig for yourself. Writing in caps is often interpreted as shouting, whether or not the poster actually meant it to be like that.
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted September 21, 2004 Posted September 21, 2004 Please stop being a retard and write coherent sentences. yes, I know that you like Ramon very much.well that was mean and unexpected But it was needed judging after looking at your recent posts. Don't get me wrong, I like you and all so don't take things too personally. Just cool down a bit. hehehe you ppl actually think that if I write in CAPS I'm screaming or something hahahaha, you're taking this too seriously; I'm takin' it too seriously hehe;no offece taken or given... maybe I'm just pissed cuz I dun have a l33t sig likek'dash'zzzz Then make a sig for yourself. Writing in caps is often interpreted as shouting, whether or not the poster actually meant it to be like that. I will damnit some day but seeing as I suck at drawing/photoshop and stuff... 4 TEH REKORD I DO NOT SHOUT WHEN WRITTING IN CAPS NOR DO I USE THE CAPS BUTTON!!! SHIFT 4EVAAAAAH!!! enough stupidity
Skythe Posted September 21, 2004 Posted September 21, 2004 Thus, in history, the option "Other" was made.An 'other' option is way too broad and proves nothing. If someone voted for other it could mean anything. If other was winning the poll, does that mean Muscle Power is the fave? Does it mean Armor King is the fave? Or does it mean that a group of 5 different characters are the favourite? I see that Other is nearly winning in Kyokugenkiss just because ppl want to have a backlash against him and his (admittedly not very wide ranging) decisions as he missed all your "favourites" off. If "Other" wins a poll, it means that there are far more to consider. Not 5 (or whatever) characters that aren't in the list winning at the sametime. Pfft! Your third "paragraph" deserves a shut up.
shin_nihon_kikaku Posted September 25, 2004 Author Posted September 25, 2004 Although I voted for the best wrestler imo - Wolf, my favourite wrestler character design is Tizoc. He looks awesome.
AndymaN Posted September 25, 2004 Posted September 25, 2004 I always liked King for his Grapple combos. Zangief is mighty swell as well. His stage music is awesome too!
shin_nihon_kikaku Posted September 26, 2004 Author Posted September 26, 2004 (edited) I'm surprised that no-one has tried to argue that Tekken's Marduk is a wrestler (and therefore should be in this best wrestler poll) as he's based on a real wrestler. Bob 'The Beast' Sapp currently (I think he's still there) signed to New Japan Pro Wrestling. Even though Marduk shares moves with his inspiration (Bob Sapp) and has a lot of wrestling moves (such as Bodyslam, Jackhammer, Spear, Reverse Atomic Drop), he definitely uses Vale Tudo (and his character design represents a UFC type combatant not a pantomime freak wrestler) As is the style with Tekken, his use of Vale Tudo isn't perfectly represented.... (less than Vanessa Lewis' use of the style) Edited September 26, 2004 by shin_nihon_kikaku
wacko_jacko Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 I'm surprised that no-one has tried to argue that Tekken's Marduk is a wrestler (and therefore should be in this best wrestler poll) as he's based on a real wrestler. Bob 'The Beast' Sapp currently (I think he's still there) signed to New Japan Pro Wrestling. Even though he shares moves with his inspiration (Bob Sapp) and has a lot of wrestling moves (such as Bodyslam, Jackhammer, Spear, Reverse Atomic Drop), he definitely uses Vale Tudo rather than wrestling even though it isn't perfectly represented.... (less than Vanessa Lewis' use of the style)Although he's based on a wrestler, his profile says his fighting style is Vale Tudo (is this a real style). Anyways, I guess you could argue that he's a wrestler, as you see most of his moves in the WWE
shin_nihon_kikaku Posted September 26, 2004 Author Posted September 26, 2004 Yeah Vale Tudo is real and Marduk is not too far from the real style. If you have seen Vanessa from Virtua Fighter 4, then that's what Vale Tudo is really like (as close as you can get in a game anyway). Vanessa and Marduk are both Vale Tudo fighters, it's just that Vanessa's moves are more faithful to the real fighting style.
shin_nihon_kikaku Posted September 26, 2004 Author Posted September 26, 2004 (edited) Stupid Tizoc. I replaced Muscle Power (the bottom option in the poll) with him. No-one would have voted for Muscle Power and Tizoc is a better character BUT.... I've been playing World Heroes Perfect again lately and I've come to the conclusion that Muscle Power is the best representation of a wrestler on a 2D fighting game. His incredibly daft look and voice are amazing/amazingly funny (a bit like real wrestling in fact), and his variety of wrestling throws is even better than Zangief on World Warrior/Champion Edition/Turbo (I hate the fact that Capcom got rid of more than half of his throws in Super SF2 onwards, this was stupid of them, I know why they did it but that's not the point, it detracted from the character). Anyway, if it wasn't for 3D wrestlers (Wolf, King, Bass etc), Muscle Power would be the best user of the pro wrestling fighting style. Plus, I think Muscle Power's spinning back breaker is even more fun to do than Zangiefs SPD [Although my all time fave "Spinner" is Darun's from SFEX]. Muscle Power even has a 'proper' Hugo style clothesline (instead of the crap spinning clothesline) and a flying dropkick in addition to his wide range of major slammage! Number 1.....NUMBERRRR ONE!!!!! Also, Tizoc's 'spinner' is a pathetic attempt. It is exactly the same as the ryu character (Demitri) from Darkstalkers' 360 move. Nowhere near spectacular/original enough. Even Yoshimitsu had this move (his back throw) and that's a 'semi-serious' 3D game. Hugo's Moonsault Press and Darun's 'spinner' show the more creative thinking Capcom are capable of. World Heroes IS under-rated. Poor ADK bastards. This game features some of the best ideas and most fun moves in a 2D fighter. Edited September 26, 2004 by shin_nihon_kikaku
Skythe Posted September 26, 2004 Posted September 26, 2004 (edited) Maybe the thread title should be changed to The Best Themed Wrestler in a Fighting Game. Edited September 26, 2004 by Skythe
shin_nihon_kikaku Posted October 5, 2004 Author Posted October 5, 2004 (edited) Ramon before Ramon besides Ramon above Ramon!!! UNDERRATED!!! SO SAD!!! Kickass wrestle char!!! WILD FIRE CAT!!!! PERIOD!!!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ramon is a rubbish character and a complete waste of a good idea. Which was supposed to be "Lucha Libre" but isn't anything like. His design isn't what gets my goat, he looks more like Justin Timberlake than a wrestler, BUT it's the fact that he has no moves whatsoever and is poorly researched. His "moves" - A 'back-off' move (god knows what that's for), A back-off into dropkick, a badly animated grab (his nowhere near good enough version of a 360), a sobat back-kick and a somersault that also does nothing. His supers are both acceptable but who cares? He sticks to hardly any of the ideas or concepts that he was supposed to and is "just another fighter" and one with NO MOVES at that.... He was a cool concept that was thrown out the window by SNK's stupidity/laziness. Edited October 5, 2004 by shin_nihon_kikaku
Wizard Posted October 5, 2004 Posted October 5, 2004 Ramon before Ramon besides Ramon above Ramon!!! UNDERRATED!!! SO SAD!!! Kickass wrestle char!!! WILD FIRE CAT!!!! PERIOD!!!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ramon is a rubbish character and a complete waste of a good idea. Which was supposed to be "Lucha Libre" but isn't anything like. His design isn't what gets my goat, he looks more like Justin Timberlake than a wrestler, BUT it's the fact that he has no moves whatsoever and is poorly researched. His "moves" - A 'back-off' move (god knows what that's for), A back-off into dropkick, a badly animated grab (his nowhere near good enough version of a 360), a sobat back-kick and a somersault that also does nothing. His supers are both acceptable but who cares? He sticks to hardly any of the ideas or concepts that he was supposed to and is "just another fighter" and one with NO MOVES at that.... He was a cool concept that was thrown out the window by SNK's stupidity/laziness.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha...noWatch some real Lucha.
shin_nihon_kikaku Posted October 5, 2004 Author Posted October 5, 2004 (edited) Aha ha ha ha ha ha ha...noWatch some real Lucha. I already know how it is. SNK don't. Nothing you can say can convince me that they didn't completely miss-hit with this character. Edited October 5, 2004 by shin_nihon_kikaku
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