-VIOLENCE- Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 I thought Haku was a girl.......... never saw the anime so don't laugh.neither did i
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 I kinda miss out on most well known animes since there are no channelswich broadcast animes.......
random guy Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 "The current Punk stereotype is scarred by mass-marketing and an unfortunate emphasis on style over substance." - Dr. Greg Graffin, Singer for Bad Religion Punk Manifesto ^That right there is the best essay on what Punk is ever. It comes a vet of punk, as well. Read up, Garage. Its DAMN good. Anon.yeah I've read that before. although I don't always agree with Graffin. there isn't any denying he is a smart cat and a true leader in the punk scene.as long as we all understand spiky hair and a blink182 album are not punk then we're on our way to true enlightenment, heheh. Well, I haven't read that article all the way through, but speaking as someone who used to be into the punk scene (but would never have the nerve to have called myself 'punk'), it seems to me that writing a manifesto on 'punk'ness' is kind of refuting the whole idea. Because you can only truly be a punk if you don't consider yourself a punk. You can only truly be a punk if you don't give a damn whether other people consider you to be punk or not, or indeed WHAT you think about them.There is no true 'punk fashion', there's no one style that can be called 'punk music'; in fact, by its very definition, any music later than 1990 cannot be considered punk. Because punk was a revolution of music, it was a protest over what the first wave of punk saw as the wanky 70's 'prog-rock', guitar-solo-filled, musical oddysees that were produced by bands like Led Zeppelin, etc... etc...One of the biggest original punk bands, 'the clash', most of their songs most 'modern punkers' wouldn't even recognise as punk. So to me, as soon as punk music became defined by the record companies, and therefore the record companies started exploiting the genre for all it was worth, punk music died. I remember that brief period when punk was in high-fashion. When I saw a 'designer punk' outfit full of extra zippers and tears in the fabric, but selling for TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS!!! on the news, I was ANGRY. Dammit, those holes were in the fabric because punks couldn't afford new clothes, you can't rip up a jacket and sell it for two grand! That's ruining the whole essence of punk music.So to conclude, punk music has died in the arse, but hey I think we were all imagining those ideals of not-selling out and so on, considering the original famous punk band, the Sex Pistols, during the late 1990's went on a tour called the "give us your money" tour, or something like that. And the 'dead kennedys' (appart from Jello) sold one of their songs for a 'just jeans' ad. Therefore, money (and pop-punk) has ruined the entire punk scene.
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Punk died more than 6 years ago, the idea was OK, but then there werethose whore politicians who played all saint like and started condemningthe PUNK movement, they should have gotten branded with scorchingPUNK sign on their forehead and ass.....
Inky Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 "The current Punk stereotype is scarred by mass-marketing and an unfortunate emphasis on style over substance." - Dr. Greg Graffin, Singer for Bad Religion Punk Manifesto ^That right there is the best essay on what Punk is ever. It comes a vet of punk, as well. Read up, Garage. Its DAMN good. Anon.yeah I've read that before. although I don't always agree with Graffin. there isn't any denying he is a smart cat and a true leader in the punk scene.as long as we all understand spiky hair and a blink182 album are not punk then we're on our way to true enlightenment, heheh. Well, I haven't read that article all the way through, but speaking as someone who used to be into the punk scene (but would never have the nerve to have called myself 'punk'), it seems to me that writing a manifesto on 'punk'ness' is kind of refuting the whole idea. Because you can only truly be a punk if you don't consider yourself a punk. You can only truly be a punk if you don't give a damn whether other people consider you to be punk or not, or indeed WHAT you think about them.There is no true 'punk fashion', there's no one style that can be called 'punk music'; in fact, by its very definition, any music later than 1990 cannot be considered punk. Because punk was a revolution of music, it was a protest over what the first wave of punk saw as the wanky 70's 'prog-rock', guitar-solo-filled, musical oddysees that were produced by bands like Led Zeppelin, etc... etc...One of the biggest original punk bands, 'the clash', most of their songs most 'modern punkers' wouldn't even recognise as punk. So to me, as soon as punk music became defined by the record companies, and therefore the record companies started exploiting the genre for all it was worth, punk music died. I remember that brief period when punk was in high-fashion. When I saw a 'designer punk' outfit full of extra zippers and tears in the fabric, but selling for TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS!!! on the news, I was ANGRY. Dammit, those holes were in the fabric because punks couldn't afford new clothes, you can't rip up a jacket and sell it for two grand! That's ruining the whole essence of punk music.So to conclude, punk music has died in the arse, but hey I think we were all imagining those ideals of not-selling out and so on, considering the original famous punk band, the Sex Pistols, during the late 1990's went on a tour called the "give us your money" tour, or something like that. And the 'dead kennedys' (appart from Jello) sold one of their songs for a 'just jeans' ad. Therefore, money (and pop-punk) has ruined the entire punk scene. I agree with you on alot. punk isn't music or fashion. it's attitude.but if you guy's think punk is dead and only commercial. you need to dig alittle deeper. there are thousends of great "punk bands" that will never be played on radio, mtv, vh1, or cmt. whether they play rock country blues or something else. they have a "punk rock" attitude. a few examples you say?tiger armyhillbilly hellcatsdrive by truckersblack mondaythrow ragHank williams IIIpunk's not gonna die just cuz of some posers shopping at hot topic. or some big label churn's out another cookie cutter band.
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Punk will eventually die out even if some won't accept it, IMO!
Agozer Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 I HATE POLITICIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!But if it wasn't for them, anarchy would rule. At least where I live, politicians are respected.
Wizard Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Anarchy as in the burning and flaming of stuff, or the Anarchy of a none-governed system?
Agozer Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 Anarchy as in the burning and flaming of stuff, or the Anarchy of a none-governed system?The latter one.
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 well, politicians in my country are hated by the ppl who don't have thei brains washed by them...... they only fill their own pockets and do nothing for the country...... fat bastards
Inky Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 (edited) here's something that bugs me. i just made a hotdog went to squeze some mustard on it. forgot to shake the mustard and that watery mustard afterbirth got all over my bun. Edited May 6, 2004 by garageink
Sybarite Paladin AxL Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 tough luck, bro; next time don't forgot to shake it; It happened to me once but with ketchup........
Wizard Posted May 6, 2004 Posted May 6, 2004 What the flock are you guys talking about?! And Agozer: Anarchy of a none-governed system which causes the flaming and fire and the destruction of the HUMAN RACE.
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