Coinops 4 - How to disable Locks (run Arcade only)

[gamez fan]

it's a cool emu loads of console stuff been added since 3 its worth havin if your into consoles thats for sure i do like the new skins

im mostly 90% into the arcade side of coinops and it hands down beats any other out there for total games it can play but arcadewise it's my opinion that not an awful lot has been added since last release

 

TBH i wanted it for the new mame72 core just rampage world tour to have sound and play faster in mame side of things i do have a rip of rampage that plays perfect already i guess i would have added mk3 as well so without sounding ungrateful as i know alot of work has gone into this by a good few people im just gonna stick with my coinops 3 arcade only sunset version for good now cant see me upgrading ever agian same goes for all my emus im happy with what ive got

 

ach all this fuss and carry on just to try rampage world tour in coinops 4 i must be aff ma heid

steppin back for a while less postin more game playin startin with dark souls

 

but as big arnie says ill be back

[Emu Newbie]

I was actually just about to play dark souls (just got it via gamefly). I heard it is one hard game!

[darknior]

it's a cool emu loads of console stuff been added since 3 its worth havin if your into consoles thats for sure i do like the new skins

im mostly 90% into the arcade side of coinops and it hands down beats any other out there for total games it can play but arcadewise it's my opinion that not an awful lot has been added since last release

 

TBH i wanted it for the new mame72 core just rampage world tour to have sound and play faster in mame side of things i do have a rip of rampage that plays perfect already i guess i would have added mk3 as well so without sounding ungrateful as i know alot of work has gone into this by a good few people im just gonna stick with my coinops 3 arcade only sunset version for good now cant see me upgrading ever agian same goes for all my emus im happy with what ive got

 

ach all this fuss and carry on just to try rampage world tour in coinops 4 i must be aff ma heid

steppin back for a while less postin more game playin startin with dark souls

 

but as big arnie says ill be back

 

If you release of CoinOPS 4 works fine, without lock and can be updated ... please release it or the "patch" ... I also like the BP work, but only for arcade games !

And the BETA of CoinOPS4 i have tested are locked too

[gamez fan]

i created a standalone using the betas but its locked i had to use emunewbies save file to get around the locks i only did this to see how rampage wt

played using the mame72 core in COP4 it didnt play well maybe it's been sorted now i dont know for sure

 

as for releasing it well ive stated above the reasons why idd never do that plus it's locked so no point really

anyway ive not got it anymore ive deleted it from my xbox and pc im back using COP3 sunset

 

but if you wanna make an arcade only COP4 standalone and release it yourself then wire in read my posts above there's info on how to create a version that would be fully operational as for updateable well who knows

Edited May 2, 2012 by gamez fan

[fandangos]

Tried this method with CoinOps 4 R8.

 

Deleted everything, now there's a acade333 folder in UDATA/TDATA.

There's a udata and tdata folder too.

Replaced everything with the given files but it didn't work =/

Keep showing 1660 games on my list and I can't play the games.

 

I'm really considering moving to Final Burn Legends for the simple reason that it makes sense.

I can't remember in my entire live on the web something like an emulator with "locks"!

 

Imagine if you wanted to play Super Mario World on your Zsnes but you need, back in the 56k days, to download the entire SNES and Genesis library, or else Super Mario would not work. That's how CoinOps works.

I can't play Fatal Fury because I've deleted Sonic the Hedgehog.

This is beyond reason, beyond logic. I have no words for this.

Edited May 31, 2012 by fandangos

[The Raincheck]

Cant anyone whos talented enough to make a "freedom" build if you will of CoinOPS or something based off MameoX? Hell combine FBL with MAME cores...make our own "CoinOPS". BP takes retail games, XBMC, and other emu builds and stuffs the shit out of it...how hard is that? Im having re-vert back to CO3 because CO4 dont work for shit...I recently updated to R8 (I have 3000+ games in mind) everytime I select a game it just goes back to the menu....Im like fandangos...its just idiotic to lock down your freedom and choices of emulators.

Edited May 31, 2012 by The Raincheck

[fandangos]

I bet the line of code that rules on is in the beginning of MAMEoX.xbe. The "approved rom list" is in there.

You can see it with any hex editor.

 

The shit part is that most of the functions inside a xbe file are not visible this way. You need IDA Pro and that famous FLIRT file.

I bet that it would be an very elementary function If game count <= 3000 then STOP. 2 lines of code.

 

If anyone could look that in IDA Pro they could point the offset, we could search the HEX value that even if we can't see, we can alter.

[+ T +]

I don't visit the CoinOPS forum at all but as far as I can gather from the posts here and elsewhere, the people that use CoinOPS aren't bothered about the "locks" and people like myself that don't use it couldn't care less if it's locked or not so it's unlikely you'll see anyone putting any real time and effort into getting round these restrictions. It is unfortunate that there are users like yourselves caught in the middle that would like to use CoinOPS but are prevented from doing so by this nonsense.

 

Speaking purely hypothetically, I'd say one could probably get around the locks by producing dummy 0byte files for the required console ROMs and videos then filter the game list to show arcade games only as mentioned above. A simple batch file would do the trick, it would only take you a few minutes, and you could even then distribute it as an "arcade only" build; but then you'd just have to contend with more convoluted locks in CoinOPS 14 (or whatever release it's on now) so one would question the point of the whole thing.

 

My advice is to just use FBL + MAMEoX or CoinOPS 3 and save yourself the headaches.

[RatherAnnoyed]

Guys, nothing new is being added anyway. There is literally no reason to even bother with 4. Notice how often all the "updates" involve "bug fixes, too many to mention"? Yeah. Why all the bug fixes in something that was tested end to end and working perfectly before, huh?

 

Remember how we were always told to just go check the difference between the gamelists if we wanted to merely know the answer to the (you'd think) rather simple question of what new arcade games had been added?

 

Yeah, I did that one time. I found that a grand total of all of 12 "new" games had been added (can't remember off the top of my head which versions it was between, but I checked between at least two "revisions", both of which claimed the addition of... well, a lot more than just 12). And half of them were the same game, just different revisions of the rom.

 

Oh, and they were all utter, utter shite, and not even worth the half meg they took up in space.

 

(Just adding this bit too, there are often claimes of "speeding up" or "improving performance" on existing games in the collection... never seen any evidence of this. Oh, what a shock, we don't get any details on that either.)

 

What's "new" that's worth worrying about? Everything that got added to FBL recently. What'll be "new" that'll be worth worrying about in the future? Anything that gets added to FBL.

 

My advice is to just stick 3 Sunset, xraine, and wherever we get up to with FBL on your box. As long as you got the usual console emus on there (Snes, Megadrive, PCE), you won't be missing out.

 

Edit: heh, +T+ beat me to it by a few seconds...

Edited May 31, 2012 by RatherAnnoyed

[+ T +]

I think it's a good point. The fact is that most people are interested in CoinOPS because it's a continuation of the MAMEoX project and many are hoping that either new MAME games will be added or performance improved on existing ones. What these people don't realise is that MAME is already pretty much as good as it can be on the Xbox; that's why you won't see any anything new from the MAME core in CoinOPS regardless of how many releases it has. It's not BP's fault; it's hardware that's the limitation, but it's ridiculous to pretend that CoinOPS is so much better than the alternatives because that simply isn't the case.

[RatherAnnoyed]

Remember now!

 

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

Albert Einstein"

 

lulz. Too funny.

[fandangos]

Since this thread is about unlocking the CoinOps and not don't caring about the Coin Ops, it would be awesome if someone could upload the batch file.

I know how to do it but I have no idea how to make it automatic. I would have to paste and copy every single game name in the script.

 

So if anyone can create the batch file it would be awesome for everybody.

 

EDIT: command to create empty zip files on DOS is echo. 2>file.zip.

So we have the game list, we have the command now we need a way to automatically add echo. 2> before the game name and .zip after

Edited May 31, 2012 by fandangos

[fandangos]

Ok, made it.

 

This is the script:

 

 

@echo off

for /f "tokens=*" %%l in (x.txt) do @type nul>> "%%l.zip"

 

You will need an x.txt file with all the game list.

That's it. It will create all the files for you with 0 bytes.

 

=)))

Edited May 31, 2012 by fandangos

[fandangos]

Here's the script and the file list, if you want more files just add more at the x.txt file

 

http://www.multiupload.nl/1I2AKFMLM9

 

Enjoy your CoinOps back.

[fandangos]

Just an update, I'm with 8000+ fake games now and it still send me back to the menu.

 

I guess BP messed up with some part of his "code".

Well, that was my last shot, it didn't work so I'm out no more CoinOps for me.