Mega Man (?) Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) (Well phil...)I have a Jamma cabinet I am looking at getting... I want to either run it using a PC or Xbox.. and right now I am weighing the pro/cons and options.... I want to know what I use to have the the "controls , monitor and speakers" speak to the xbox with.... I see the link to that jamma xbox thing... but i want to know is that "it" ? I am aware of the I-pac and the J-pac...I am not sure what the xbox one is... and I am fuzzy still on how it works... Any help and/or opinions from anyone will be greatly appreciatedThanks Some pro's I see to xbox:I already have one set upit seems like less workxbox boot easier/fast than pc possibly better interface Cons:limitations to certain games and memoryI see that someone got a trackball (mouse) hack working...but I still can't fathom how ...I know there are a few more cons I thought of but can't think now We guys I you can point me to link or tutorials ... I know some other great cats have already done many beautiful cabs!I will be sure to show my work If i get it going... Edited September 17, 2011 by Mega Man (?)
+ T + Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Having a cabinet to play classic arcade games has always been something I've promised myself I'll do some day, but whether I'll ever actually get round to it or not is another story. I'd probably be more inclined to go the PC route if it wasn't for the boot time. MAME on even a half-decent spec PC will play so many more games than the Xbox will ever be able to handle. I wonder what the shortest achievable boot time is on a PC arcade cab.
ace9094 Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 in my honest opinion, its xbox all the way, limitations or not.. Ive seen tons of cabinets that have a keyboard and mouse and are PC based... to me that just looks odd and nothing like I played as a kid. I admire what PC cabs can do but not the look and feel of them, I seen one with a joystick that controls the menu... bizzare boot time is a nightmare, config also a nightmare.... you would benifit from more games but look at what are your true favourite games... I bet 90% or more play on xbox. I love the layout and look of hyperspin but the config and options are just a nightmare... Love it or hate it, you cannot beat Coinops in a cab... you ask any cab owner running coinops.... If there is a substantial ammount of games you play that dont work in coinops then go for PC... For me it is like 50 or less so its gotta be coinops! There is nothing better out there, BP's creation of a multi launching emulator in 1 GUI its perfect for a cab and is the reason I built a cab in the first place... Head over to http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/ you will see some amazing PC based machines and console based machines Good luck with whatever you decide
dirk hermans Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Ive just sold my Xbox arcade cabinet.Because id prefer playing games laying on my bed instead of sitting in front of the cabinet... When i should build again one; im sure to use the xbox again ! Why?- extremely fast booting compared with PC - Coinops which is for me the best emulator- easy connection to the buttons using the xbox convertor (from x-arcade)- you can use also the x-arcade stick (6 buttons per player) (trackball)- you can use normal tv instead of the expensive arcade monitors (15hz)
destronger Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) have you considered maybe building your own cab instead? the only reason i mention this is for moving purposes. i used to own sf2 arcade and found it very bulky. earlier this year i made this and will be my plan to actually make it. when it comes to xbox or pc... i already set up the xbox with all the yummy goodness that is xtra's for cobsoles and fbl and mame128 plus for arcade. using xbmc with confluence... well anyway, the look of it on my monitor i'm using looks amazing. here's a pic of my mock-up. again, something to consider... Edited September 17, 2011 by tristanx
Mega Man (?) Posted September 17, 2011 Author Posted September 17, 2011 Thanks for all the feed back guys...You make some really good points! OK so you have convinced me to do Xbox! What are the pieces of hardware I need to do it? Is it just that xbox/jamma thing?
Mega Man (?) Posted September 17, 2011 Author Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) Do I need this? what does it mean by "timer" ? http://www.coin-arcade.com/catalog/i22.html Edited September 17, 2011 by Mega Man (?)
dirk hermans Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Depends what kind of monitor you will use... (arcade 15Khz monitor) = IPAC(vga monitor)=JPAC This link will make it clear to you:http://www.ultimarc.com/xba.html More easy is like i did (just buy x-arcade stick and use this as the control panel and buy the x-box adapter) and connect to normal TV.
ace9094 Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) Do I need this? what does it mean by "timer" ? http://www.coin-arcade.com/catalog/i22.html It means you can select timed play.... example £1 = 30mins I bought 1 off bulge before he went overseas.... pm me ya email ansd ill send you the documents on monday or just google them personally id just use hacked pads its cheaper and you can custom design everything... also use i use 4:3 tv but its your call... have you seen my build thread on arcadecontrols and emulab? ps i also have an x-arcade and the connectors for xbox too.... are you in the UK? Edited September 17, 2011 by ace9094
Mega Man (?) Posted September 17, 2011 Author Posted September 17, 2011 Ok. I am in USA hacked pads huh..? hmmm I will have an old dynamo jamma cabI'll pm you my email ace ...no i have not seen your thread... Thanks guys
sharpfork Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Ok. I am in USA hacked pads huh..? hmmm I will have an old dynamo jamma cabI'll pm you my email ace ...no i have not seen your thread... Thanks guys I'd like to see Ace's cab too. I'm just collecting materials to do my second xbox based cab out of a dynamo HS-5. I sold the WG 25" monitor for $30 and bought a 480i 4:3 flat glass TV with component in for $10 on Craigslist. I still have to de-case it and mount it when I get some spare time. I'm coming from having a Mac/XP/ Lunix based cab for over ten years and have found the XBOX1 + TV to be superior in ease of setup and video tuning. I looked into that timing board thing you listed and I read a review that the video isn't properly amplified. I think a TV is a million times easier. The one I got has a digital tuner so my kids can watch TV on it. They can use SBMC for movies and miusic and I can play halo if I want. Good call on the Xbox...
Garcimak Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 (edited) I was building console2jamma cabinet since mid 90's, beginning from pc-engine followed by saturn, Pc based emulation growing i considered an arcade-OS installation for a while but never satisfied with the feeling / ergonomic / boot time and overall plus not interested in later 3d games and upgrading hardware having scan rate issue to mess with. Since Xbox was the cheapest solution to restore a cab and keep a CRT look, i found easier to replace the inside with a RGB TVkeeping his 'front panel' shortened on the side by dremel and black painted (side speakers remounted behind the marquee )then you don't have to worry about handling the whole tube, it's still partially attached to the front plastic shell which itself leaning mostly on support. Fastest way to get the things up IMO, bonus, you can use remote to control volume and keep media input This is a Qix empty cabinet that was given, just had to replace some parts and drill extra holes. Edited September 24, 2011 by Garcimak
Mega Man (?) Posted September 24, 2011 Author Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) Hi guys...so I got my cab! ...And I have been busily tearing it apart and cleaning it. I am wondering about button config CPO's I have one... and I actually took it to be printed as just a test... but it printed too small...The printing place was gonna charge me $10 to re-size it... not that I would do that.... and also I was not sure what the right size was... Any advice?: I would imagine that these templates would come in the right sizes.... Here is the one I am working with right now: (thanks to Ace for his continued help!) ps. I am looking for this one in a high res format : Edited September 24, 2011 by Mega Man (?)
destronger Posted September 24, 2011 Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) check your pm for some useful stuff teehee... what about creating one yourself. i made this one: Edited September 24, 2011 by tristanx
Mega Man (?) Posted September 25, 2011 Author Posted September 25, 2011 thanks...still trying to get this thing to fit to the page the right size :/ also still looking for capcom overlays in high quality format
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