Arcades 2.0 is coming

[ressurectionx]

Great list. I have all of the ones that needed fixes ready to test in my spreadsheet whenever you release it. I know I said I wouldn't post in this thread, but that was just for the "lobbying" for your question. I have a few suggestions too before your build comes out........

 

 

 

Good games not added yet that would need to be remapped:

 

Arkanoid Returns - Cannot move paddle. Can we map this to the Dpad?

 

Cloak & Dagger - Can we remap so Dpad controls your guy instead of Analog Stick.

 

Demolition Derby - Can we remap this so the Dpad controls the car instead of the R & L Triggers?

 

Escape from the Planet of the Robot Monsters - Can we remap so Dpad controls movement instead of Left analog stick?

 

Free Kick - Can we fix the paddle? It doesn't move at all in Arcades.

 

Heavyweight Champ - Can we remap movement to Dpad and figure out how to map the punching? Seems like a pretty good boxing game.

 

Inferno - Works and you can control everything, but it's just impossible to play the way that it's mapped. It's both analog sticks like Smash TV would be, but you still have to press A to fire on top of it. Too much for one pair of hands. It would be great if maybe we could map the gun pointing stick to also press A at the same time no matter which direction it's pushed and then it might work like Smash TV did. This game is really good, despite first impressions.

 

Krull - Can we remap direction to the Dpad instead of the Left Analog Stick?

 

Snake Pit - Can we remap so Dpad controls movement instead of Left analog stick?

 

The Return of Ishtar - This one is probably complex to fix and I don't know if it can actually be done. Game was definately ahead of it's time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_of_Ishtar

 

Two Tigers - Can we remap it so Left and Right on the Dpad turn your plane and not the L & R buttons? This one was one of my favorites when I was a little kid.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Games already included that I thought could stand to be remapped:

 

Ambush - Can we fix the mapping so your ship can take off? All the ship does is ride the launchpad until your ship hits a wall.

 

Bad Lands - Can we remap so Dpad controls direction instead of L & R buttons?

 

Front Line - Can we remap so L & R control gun direction? It's too hard to move with left stick, change gun direction with right stick and press A to fire at the same time.

 

Nekketsu Kauha Kunio-kun - Can we remap to reverse the X and A buttons? Would make more sense if X attacked left and A attacked right.

 

Night Striker - Can we remap direction controls to Dpad instead of the left analog stick?

 

Ninja Commando - I think you should be able to turn your guy. Can we try mapping gun direction to the L & R buttons?

 

Renegade - Can we remap to reverse the X and A buttons? Would make more sense if X attacked left and A attacked right.

 

Rampart - Can we remap movement to the Dpad instead of the Left Analog Stick?

 

Rough Ranger - Can we remap so B is jump and A is attack like every other game? These are backwards.

 

Splat! - Can't throw anything. I don't think the attack button is mapped.

 

 

There are probably more of the original roms that I could find that would work better remapped, but I accidentally happened upon these in my testing and just randomly playing. I'll probably go over those this weekend and give you any suggestions I have. Thanks BP

[scumball]

Move to the new build - Arcades is brilliant, but I would love to see this new interface with a top 50 games

[BritneysPAIRS]

The list of games is changing a bit ( a few games a day added or removed during beta...beta will last for 2 weeks and although I think its ready I like to sit on it for 2 weeks to iron out stuff I see)

 

Then its up to you guys if you want a top game EMU or more features to Arcades or every game patch

 

 

Issues

 

ressurectionx

you had your time to listen no offense I cant spend hours of time on stuff for me it was a simple sort out your stuff and had or have no time to explain go over everything and fight with you about symantecs... your full list looks terrible IMO with 300 extra games that look worse than master system games. a few of those games you listed that didnt make it were the closest to nearly making it but in the end were cut due to bad control and not really worth sorting for me as they where ok games but so many others like them. The added keymaps have been looked at, for reference ambush is working fine you just need to know how to play it... hold B down to accell to 300miles dont hit the wall then take off then you can shoot stuff with A. Stuff like Nekketsu Kauha Kunio-kun is a good idea and done Front line is done but watch out it nearly got cut due to hard controls, you cant turn the gun in ninja commando it is how it is watch the demo it doenst rotate and no keys for it to..............................(analog for digital replacement is not recommended as analog is used).

PS I cant comment on every good change ive made or change recommended that I scrapped as you see half the changes are good and half are bad, its no offense I want to know but not all changes wanted are correct IMO. Ill look at all of them but cant comment on all of them as it would eat time when I could be just fixing everything which is what I am choosing to do with my time. I cant except your patch sorry as you dont want to go over the wrong stuff which is all im interested in the good stuff is changed but there is tonnes of wrong stuff the above is a list of first 5 or so games you can ague it if you want but im sure I did my homework on each one. There is lots of good changes that I was unaware of so its all good but they are done and fixed and I did credit you up above

 

fumanchu

the keys to do what you wanted are X + Y + White and A + B + Black and work ok, they are hard to time to get it right. Ill be looking into L/R trigger to be all punchs or all kicks in all streetfighters etc as it is used in more than just what you say. EG somesuper moves in SFAs. Looked into this but the interface doesnt allow it sorry bummer

Edited February 29, 2008 by BritneysPAIRS

[BritneysPAIRS]

dr99

crime fighters, 2020 super baseball, neo turf masters, mikie and super dodge ball all recommended by resx and all made the grade

[fumanchu]

ok no problem thanks for the info bs.

Edited February 29, 2008 by fumanchu

[ressurectionx]

you had your time to listen

 

as you see half the changes are good and half are bad, its no offense I want to know but not all changes wanted are correct IMO.

 

I cant except your patch sorry as you dont want to go over the wrong stuff which is all im interested in the good stuff is changed but there is tonnes of wrong stuff the above is a list of first 5 or so games you can ague it if you want but im sure I did my homework on each one.

 

Not really sure what any of that meant.....

 

So you're not going to fix any of the games I mentioned to add above then?

 

What happened to the possibility of choice A? Looks like about 30-40% of people want it.

[BritneysPAIRS]

Im saying I cant support your patch I explained the top 6 or so of the list . The rest is up for negotiation as siad many times. I spend more time explaining stuff to you than doing the mod. No one else here has asked so many questions and wanted so many anwsers. If you dont make it more to the point ill be ignoring your question. Sorry its not that I dont want to help its the time to help you with every one of your issues, more time than sorting them or discarding them

Edited March 1, 2008 by BritneysPAIRS

[dr99]

dr99

crime fighters, 2020 super baseball, neo turf masters, mikie and super dodge ball all recommended by resx and all made the grade

 

 

thanks, i'm sure the update is going to be great

Edited March 1, 2008 by dr99

[BritneysPAIRS]

other lot of games with rainbow islands extra and superhang on also pasted the grade (only just for rainbow islands extra as its a hack but I like that game )

[fumanchu]

one game i would love to see emulated on the xbox,but i dont think will ever happen is "streetfighter alpha3 upper".but that game is naomi based. ive got the game on streetfighter alpha antholgy on the xbox and with the extra characters its an all round excellent fighting game.

would you be able to add hyper streetfighter anniversery edition,to arcades bs i know bendermike released an emu for it but i would like to see it implemented into arcades.

[BritneysPAIRS]

way ahead of you Id love upper but no emulation at all . anniversery edition cant be put in now as it will kill alot of work previous done and would have to be redone sorry

[ressurectionx]

Im saying I cant support your patch I explained the top 6 or so of the list . The rest is up for negotiation as siad many times. I spend more time explaining stuff to you than doing the mod. No one else here has asked so many questions and wanted so many anwsers. If you dont make it more to the point ill be ignoring your question. Sorry its not that I dont want to help its the time to help you with every one of your issues, more time than sorting them or discarding them

 

Lol, come on man. You don't spend more time explaining stuff to me than doing the mod.

 

I only ask the most questions because I'm the person most passionate about this project that you've met. I usually am in control of things, and it's hard for me to sit on the sidelines here. I'm really not trying to make your life difficult here.

 

I'm not really sure how I can make my questions more to the point though. My written english is just about as good as I've ever seen anywhere online, particularly this thread. I think our biggest problem here is that I only ever understand about 25% of what you post. Sorry I have to ask so many questions, but I honestly just don't understand most of your answers.

 

From now on, I'll only ask you one question at a time, and if I need clarification, I'll ask you to reword it. Hopefully that solves our communication problems in the future.

[BritneysPAIRS]

All I need is a

 

Please add this

This is probably a bug.... if I dont comment its probably fixed.

maybe a why didnt you add this although not to many of these if poss

 

PS the whole mod once I sorted the roms took about 1-2 hours....the forums do take just as long. It takes me about 1 minute to check and add a rom and re keymap if I have to. I dont need stuff like I dont help im mean and critise and all this stuff I dont have time for it all it does is slow the main procedures down and I get lost in the weeds of politics and symantecs plus it makes me go internal. That was my first post on XS in a long time cause of all the misconceptions and idots that think stuff before they look and in truth all I got was more of the same... if this continues please do whatever you guys like back at XS im sure you have things under control or will do in the future. THIS IS THE LAST OF THIS STUFF the format for what is required is written above its also what everyone else has done by the way if you look though, I know you can help but patiences is a virtue and all im trying to do is what most people want now....the little stuff can be sorted later and it will be discused as to where to head after "C" is done im picking people might want to see "D" more than "A" but I will better know after this goes live

Edited March 1, 2008 by BritneysPAIRS

[ressurectionx]

Fair enough....

 

I guess I won't know what still needs fixing then until you release your new build then.

 

I suppose I'll go back to testing PSX games until you get around to releasing it.

[BritneysPAIRS]

..... ok guys should I be nice and allow mods or lock it down?

 

whats peoples thoughts on it, want to see mods that I dont support or want to see one version I do support