Starcraft II

[BlackKnight]

So today i was playing C&C3, and i realized that if you build an army of like 15 mammoth tanks (although i've done it easily with like 5) and get the railgun upgrades you can destroy pretty much any enemy base.

 

this game is no fun anymore

 

Yes, Mammoths are the most overpowered C&C3 unit by far. In the upcoming 1.05 patch they intend to make them slower moving, and the railgun upgrade cost 5000. But yeh the game has been imba from way back.

 

They promised a 'late May' release for this critical balance (and hopefully bugfixing, coz online is way more of a headache than it should be) patch, and have yet to deliver as of 29/5/07. EA is scum. Hate to jump on that bandwagon but C&C3 has been too flocked for too long for me to think otherwise.

[Elazul Yagami]

hell you manage to reach the point where you build mammoths?

 

it seems EVERYONE is tank rushing in that game.... and i mean EVERYONE.

[Wizard]

hell you manage to reach the point where you build mammoths?

 

it seems EVERYONE is tank rushing in that game.... and i mean EVERYONE.

Before I switched nod, i had a perfect record online using GDI. MTR is pretty OP and I really hope they fix it. And yes, you can reach the point to build mammoths rather quickly in C&C3 as to generals, which takes ages to get to the overlords.

[BlackKnight]

hell you manage to reach the point where you build mammoths?

 

it seems EVERYONE is tank rushing in that game.... and i mean EVERYONE.

 

I find it easier with GDI to turtle for a few minutes and get Mammoths than to do anything else if I get scorpioned. I never manage to outproduce them or defend expansions for long against Nod early, but even if they have a larger economy by the time I get Mammoths out they still cant do sh.t all about it most of the time.

[Sybarite Paladin AxL]

hell you manage to reach the point where you build mammoths?

 

it seems EVERYONE is tank rushing in that game.... and i mean EVERYONE.

 

I find it easier with GDI to turtle for a few minutes and get Mammoths than to do anything else if I get scorpioned. I never manage to outproduce them or defend expansions for long against Nod early, but even if they have a larger economy by the time I get Mammoths out they still cant do sh.t all about it most of the time.

 

So damn true it hurts... Once you get 5+ mammoths out it's game over... Unless you're Scrin and have 50 Stormriders like I usually do!

[BlackKnight]

hell you manage to reach the point where you build mammoths?

 

it seems EVERYONE is tank rushing in that game.... and i mean EVERYONE.

 

I find it easier with GDI to turtle for a few minutes and get Mammoths than to do anything else if I get scorpioned. I never manage to outproduce them or defend expansions for long against Nod early, but even if they have a larger economy by the time I get Mammoths out they still cant do sh.t all about it most of the time.

 

So damn true it hurts... Once you get 5+ mammoths out it's game over... Unless you're Scrin and have 50 Stormriders like I usually do!

 

Yeh but the Scrin doesn't have the early game to stop me from rolling over them early- Stormriders are too expensive to counter GDI tanks and their ground force can't do much of anything either.

[Sybarite Paladin AxL]

No but they do have the defense to make up for it and the early tech rise to get there. Storm Spires and Storm riders are the most awesome when it comes to defense. as for ground forces Shock Troopers annihilate most vehicles and aircraft and are cheaper then zone troopers. storm riders will also be getting a price reduction and improved damage in ion storms (provided by spires hehe) so you really defend and attack with them only scrin also have the cash flow if you know how to play right to get to about 20 storm riders before you get to 6-7 mammoths and into my base

[Wizard]

ACtually, a well defended base can fend off a 5 MTR perfectly, I usually make 6-8.

[Elazul Yagami]

by well defended you mean a turtling base?

 

i've realized in most C&C games, if you're on the offensive, you win.

[Wizard]

No, not someone who trutles. My friend is pretty good with GDI aswell, but takes the more slower build up route and doesn't rush. While I still beat him, it just takes me a while longer.

[BlackKnight]

No but they do have the defense to make up for it and the early tech rise to get there. Storm Spires and Storm riders are the most awesome when it comes to defense. as for ground forces Shock Troopers annihilate most vehicles and aircraft and are cheaper then zone troopers. storm riders will also be getting a price reduction and improved damage in ion storms (provided by spires hehe) so you really defend and attack with them only scrin also have the cash flow if you know how to play right to get to about 20 storm riders before you get to 6-7 mammoths and into my base

 

Yeh but Shock Troopers and Storm Columns are a way up the tech tree. There isn't much earlier that the Scrin have to use. And Im not sure how you mean Scrin have the cash flow- sure they can regenerate Tiberium but their harvesters return less than the GDI and Nod ones, so you really have to build more of them which further stunts the early game. Finally, for 20 Stormriders you're gonna need 5 Starports, which makes it even easier for the Mammoths to get in there and knock them down before you have enough up to stop them.

 

by well defended you mean a turtling base?

 

i've realized in most C&C games, if you're on the offensive, you win.

 

The possible exception here is if you semi-compromise economy by massing the tanks and sending them. If the enemy is GDI and can hold off the first wave or so with Predators plus base defence, then they can queue up 2 or so Sonic Emitters and lay them down in the middle of a rush (they do line of sight damage within range, and can kill tier 1 tanks in one hit, basically meaning if you position them right you can destroy 5 or 6 units per firing). Meanwhile have some Mammoths building- the Emitters will take out a sh.tload of Scorpions- they'll run away. The Nod guy will be a bit frazzled as to what to do and you can roll over them with the Mammoths once you have a few of them.

[Diso]

Super bump. Following news on SC2. Raynor's bio has been released on SC2 website a day ago

 

http://www.starcraft2.com/features/heroes/raynor.xml

 

 

Looks pretty cool to me. ^I'm not sure how this thread deviated into command and conquer