Gaming industry due for a crash?

[Wizard]

I bet we were all thinking the same thing, just trying to type it out was a different matter.

[L.S.D]

flock it. I just enjoyed whatever games I could put my hands on. I have been able to enjoy most SNES, PS, PS2 and DC games due to piracy here So, no biggie to me. #$%^&

I would still play nevery series of Final Fantasy even if they offered me the same gameplay. I play to check whether the story is good or not. I still buy NBA2K series becos I want my roster to be up to date. I dont care whether they have improved physics or whatever. I am still buying every single THQ's wrestling game on PS2 becos I want the latest rosters, match type etc although they are not the best wrestling game out there. I will still play every single KOF there is even though the fighting system didn't change much.

 

Of cos, I DO have games that are really memorable to me that I will play even after 10 yrs. Games that I would buy the original becos i feel it is worth it. Yeah, some people here knows what i'm talking about.

[Agozer]

I would still play nevery series of Final Fantasy

Same here, but only because the story is different every time. Hence why I like to play RPGs in general.

[OverlordMondo]

There are plenty of good games these days, too. People complain too much. Just to my right is a plethora of good games, at least twenty (okay maybe not a plethora), and there are many games I don't have that are just as good.

 

Go back to the the Super Nintendo, play Captain Novolin, and then tell me games were better back then.

[Agozer]

Go back to the the Super Nintendo, play Captain Novolin, and then tell me games were better back then.

Yeah, mentioning Captain Novolin usually counts as a rock-solid argument in this case.

[Elazul Yagami]

(example: Any game with so much hype to it, it fails completely. No, not Halo 2, Halo 2 owns you. Dispite what everyoen says, you just suck at console shooters, because Halo 2 is everything Halo should of been)

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dude.

i don't think there's a single FPS i haven't played, and played multiplayer at.

and i do admit halo 2 and halo flocking rock.

but they're still not as freaking cracked up as they were hyped to be.

 

still pretty sweet though.

 

 

 

anyway, to the advertisment in games thing (yes i know it was someone other than k'dash) i noticed something here in egypt, some "hackers" will hack a game "like winning eleven, a.k.a superstar soccer" and add local sponsor ads to the game "like the game shop and a videogame magazine" and since here in egypt most people play these games at a "cyber gaming cafe" it's right under their nose all the time.

 

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btw, just for your info.

the videogame crash in the 80's was caused by 2 things:

 

1- hardware was almost identical

2- games were becoming carbon copies of one another, hardly inspired and basically got old. everytime a new game idea would come up, it would be copied zillions of times.

 

the market ended up having more software and hardware than consumers.

eventually, companies went down, gamers stopped gaming, and CRASH!

 

 

can you honestly tell me that those two factors aren't happening?

crap, i seriously think the only two winners in the console wars (next gen) are ibm and nvidia.

 

and games being similar? with the exception of like one or two "original" games every once in a while, they've largely been the same.

[Agozer]

Actually, the 3rd reason was the fact that there was no quality control whatsoever. Every start up game house could do a clone of some popular game and sell it.

 

It wasn't until Nintendo created the Seal of Quality that forced companies to hand their games to the scrutiny of Nintendo for approval and publishing.

[Thraxen]

There is not going be another crash. The industry is too big and too popular. It's about as likely to crash as Hollywood is. Which is to say, it won't. People started this crap about a crash back with the PSX and here we are 10 years later with people still predicting the crash and still no signs of it happening.

 

We may see some down quarters and we will likely see some more companies go belly up, but an industry wide crash? No way.

 

And let's get something straight here... games have ALWAYS been largely crap. You emu fans should know this and shame on you if you don't admit it. How many NES ROMS are there floating around? And how many are actually worth playing? Nostalgia has a way of clouding people's judgement when looking back on old systems.

 

Also, that guy needs to do a bit of research before writing an article like that. In one part he challenges the reader to find a major review site that hands out scores of 6 or lower on a regular basis. Well, I went right over to one of the biggest, IGN, and looked at their PS2 review section and counted 8 games that scored 6.0 or lower in November alone with another 6 games that scored 6.1-6.9. Seems pretty regular to me. I'm not going to claim that some games don't get inflated scores, because they do, but that has always been the case. It's simply something you have to take into account when reading reviews. Everyone has a fanboy side or is particularly fond of a genre or series... even reviewers. That's why you should always read lots of reviews and if still in doubt, then rent. But again, this has always been the case.

[Ryuken]

There is not going be another crash.  The industry is too big and too popular.  It's about as likely to crash as Hollywood is.  Which is to say, it won't.  People started this crap about a crash back with the PSX and here we are 10 years later with people still predicting the crash and still no signs of it happening. 

 

We may see some down quarters and we will likely see some more companies go belly up, but an industry wide crash?  No way. 

 

And let's get something straight here... games have ALWAYS been largely crap.  You emu fans should know this and shame on you if you don't admit it.  How many NES ROMS are there floating around?  And how many are actually worth playing?  Nostalgia has a way of clouding people's judgement when looking back on old systems.

 

Also, that guy needs to do a bit of research before writing an article like that.  In one part he challenges the reader to find a major review site that hands out scores of 6 or lower on a regular basis.  Well, I went right over to one of the biggest, IGN, and looked at their PS2 review section and counted 8 games that scored 6.0 or lower in November alone with another 6 games that scored 6.1-6.9.  Seems pretty regular to me.  I'm not going to claim that some games don't get inflated scores, because they do, but that has always been the case.  It's simply something you have to take into account when reading reviews.  Everyone has a fanboy side or is particularly fond of a genre or series... even reviewers.  That's why you should always read lots of reviews and if still in doubt, then rent.  But again, this has always been the case.

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couldn't agree more about the review part

[Gryph]

Another erroneous fact in that article was that the game industry makes more than Hollywood. That isn't true.

[Agozer]

And let's get something straight here... games have ALWAYS been largely crap.  You emu fans should know this and shame on you if you don't admit it.  How many NES ROMS are there floating around?  And how many are actually worth playing?  Nostalgia has a way of clouding people's judgement when looking back on old systems.

Well it's not like from the early 80's to the early 90's the games' lineup was a parade of commercial successes. Every systems has its excellent have and a huge gray mass of mediocre and outright crappy games. That how it is. Personally, I'm not afraid to admit it.

[Elazul Yagami]

Actually, the 3rd reason was the fact that there was no quality control whatsoever. Every start up game house could do a clone of some popular game and sell it.

 

It wasn't until Nintendo created the Seal of Quality that forced companies to hand their games to the scrutiny of Nintendo for approval and publishing.

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yeah, and wasn't taht technically completely destroyed by sony? (dunno if nintendo still has it) i mean, on sony machines, there is NO quality control (and no, a NO 2d rule does not count as quality control).

 

yes, i know you might be saying "well there are other consoles" but the ps systems account for the majority of marketspace, hence forth it does matter.

[Agozer]

Yeah, there is hardly any quality control on the PS2, seeing how many subpar games are on the market that were made by some little, unknown european developer... and they go straight to the bargain bin.

 

I don't know how things are in the US or the rest of the world, but over here, there are quite a number of shady "I've never even heard of this crap" titles on the shelves....And I like to think that I keep track of what gets released for the PS2.

[Wizard]

lol Simple 2000 titles in japan (Some of them made it to Europe actually, FUN as hell games actually)

 

80% of all PS2 titles in america, pretty much no quality control at all.

[OverlordMondo]

Yeah, that simple series thing is pretty fun if I know what you're talking about.