Gaming industry due for a crash?

[ken_cinder]

A must read. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27976

 

I have to say I agree with the ENTIRE article, and note that there is even more missing that points to the sad-ass state gaming is in. Not least of all being the younger crowds lack of any imagination whatsoever, requiring them to be spoon-fed the same ol' sh!t over and over again to make them happy and that fun = guns + boobies.

[Dooz]

I used to think there'd be a videogame crash in the future, but not anymore. Video gaming is more popular then ever before. The way the consumers are investing, I don't think it's possible to ahve an absolute crash.

 

And also, considering how gaming is starting to suck ass, like you said, gamers these days just lap up the crap like it's chocolate. So if they aren't bored of all the crap right now, who says they'll ever get bored of it in the future?

[Weirdy]

I don't like games that have advertisements and billboards from big companies, but that is becoming more common. A lot of sports games that I've seen are just big advertisements for certain companies, even movies

[gfrommy]

I could see it happening. But I dont know when. Only true hardcore gamers dont buy bad games. I know a ton of my friends that buy shity games on a reguar basis, and even more that buy every year of the exact some sports game. I just dont understand it. It goes kind of with my theroy of movies, if you dont got see bad movies they will stop making them. If you dont buy bad games they will stop making them. Thats why I have only got a few games in my life with out playing them first. I dont know I am ranting. Ill end this right...... NOW.

[Wizard]

Only true hardcore gamers dont buy bad games.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

True gamers play all games, buy all games regardless of quality of the title. You never know when you get a jem that was claimed crap by critics and owns by your own standards.

 

Hardcore gamers = Those who do not discriminate.

 

And, Game Industry is due for a crash, with the cutting corners like crazy and rise of cost, why wouldn't there be one? Right now, in it's current height, it's an invincable beast mostly because it's dead horse beating for conservatives.

[Weirdy]

ppl who solely blame video games on the corruption of youth and children are idiots; if you think about it, they only do half the work while it's also the fault of the parent who refuses to put their foot down

Edited November 30, 2005 by Weirdy

[BlackKnight]

I agree. I havn't really enjoyed a new game in a long time. Maybe this is why.

 

UT to UT2003. There you have it. Money, graphic detail etc etc up. Fun down.

[Ryuken]

what does up must come down, so even if there's a crach it'll go back up.

[Gryph]

Aw crap, son! Ryuken busting out with the Newtonian physics!

 

But as long as people keep buying crap, there won't be a crash. For some reason I don't expect these people to stop buying those games either. They're like flies attracted to crap. But this industry could use a major shake up like that.

[Nusumenai]

Well, I don't know about you guys... but I rarely ever buy stuff without knowing what i'm buying.

 

That's the beautiful thing about the internet.

 

Reviews, and lots of them.

 

Surely everyone in this forum can find a reviewer they trust?

 

I personaly don't give a crap what IGN says about any RPGs, but if someone over at RPGfan tells me a game is crap, I'll seriously take what they are saying into consideration.

 

I also don't think, for the most part... People understand what quality is. One of my buddies... lets call him, "Typical" gamer... Bought a Xbox 360 on the release and is enjoying all his games. COD2, Tony Hawks American Wasteland and Perfect Dark... All rehashed garbage in my opinion, but he loves them.

 

Also, really... How much worse are games? Everything in that article is strictly based on opinion.

 

Where Atari 2600, Commodore 64, etc. games really that much more Sophisticated?

[OverlordMondo]

I agree with K that a Hardcore Gamer doesn't discriminate. I'll play nearly any game I can get my hands on, good, bad, or otherwise. There are many instances where I buy a game and wish I had bought a better one, but at least I can warn other people.

 

The latest bad game I bought was Cubivore. It's a rare game to find these days, and it looked cool two years ago. But it's so shallow and short that I can't reccomend the purchase. As if you'll find it anyway.

[Ryuken]

how come whenever people are talking about how much games these days sucks, they always say back in the days games were better?? to me i just think that's it is the people that have changed. As u get older u get bored with games because u play them too much and there's too many of those kinds of games. y do u think nintendo is always trying to change how games are played, because that way it'll give a different feel to it and won't get bored of it so easily. making a good game is hard and making one that a lot of people like is even harder because not everyone like the same thing. one man's trash is another's treasure.

 

The way xbox 360 and ps3 is going will only mean better graphic and other fancy things but i doubt it'll make u enjoy the game more since it's still fake but nintendo's new controller will change the way games are played and give developers more room to be creative about their games.

[Agozer]

I'm one of those people who read consmer reviews like crazy. The article is dead-on about what is already happenening and what will happen. Like it was said, game companies rarely like taking risks, so they make game (or a sequel) that is already widely known, either from previous incarnations or from other mediums... Hence why we still have crappy movie license games, endless mediocre franchise games (Star Wars, Star Trek, the yearly NFL/NHL/Madden/whatever). And these things continue to sell like hotcakes because the *average* gamer/consumer wants to feel safe and not go for something that they have never tried before.

 

Sure, there are some titles that that have had massive ad campaigns and continue to sell just because they really are good, Ratchet & Clank or Jak & Daxter for example. Though, these two titles are the few I recognize as "worthy money makers" in the otherwise big cesspool of mediocrity.

 

Sadly, the truly unique titles get trampled and get only picked up by gamers who know their turf, and are always on the lookout for something that strays from the mainstream. Beyond Good & Evil, Magna Carta, ICO, etc. The japanese have a talent for making completely unique games, but these games rarely get out of the country (which I believe is because the developers and publishers over there are conscious about the ever-increasing homogenous nature of the gaming industry in the west)... The european market is another matter, since it's largely dictated by well-known US releases and the PAL region extra work. Sure, they take their risks sometimes, and gamers rejoice. Personally, KOEI is my new god in gaming.

 

I wonder if EA will eventually become the next Atari? It'll take really flocking long, but it might happen...

[Wizard]

I agree with K that a Hardcore Gamer doesn't discriminate.  I'll play nearly any game I can get my hands on, good, bad, or otherwise.  There are many instances where I buy a game and wish I had bought a better one, but at least I can warn other people.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

My love of Virtua Fighter, DOA, Street Fighter 3 and Parasite Eve trancesend everyone on this board unless one of those people are Fatal who just deadicates himself to one thing.

A 360 WILL BE MINE! DISPITE WHAT THE INTERNET SAYS. YOU ONLY HERE THE BAD, NEVER TEH GOOD.

 

how come whenever people are talking about how much games these days sucks, they always say back in the days games were better?? to me i just think that's it is the people that have changed. As u get older u get bored with games because u play them too much and there's too many of those kinds of games. y do u think nintendo is always trying to change how games are played, because that way it'll give a different feel to it and won't get bored of it so easily. making a good game is hard and making one that a lot of people like is even harder because not everyone like the same thing. one man's trash is another's treasure

 

Games today are being made for more money for less time. It's a double edge sword; On one hand, they want to make a greatest game they can imagine, on the other, they want it to be accessible to the regular joe who doesn't want to spend 20 hours, which is sorter then ever these days, playing a game to get everything while still appealing to long time fans of a series (prime example: Final Fantasy)

 

It's what Nintendo is trying to do, and for what it's worth, if they do fail, they're doing it with style.

 

The difference to making a good game, and a crappy game, isn't how much it's put into it, it's how much they want it to appeal to more and failing the overall product after it hits the press. (example: Any game with so much hype to it, it fails completely. No, not Halo 2, Halo 2 owns you. Dispite what everyoen says, you just suck at console shooters, because Halo 2 is everything Halo should of been)

[Dooz]

Hm, cool. Ryuken's actually got a point. Maybe games back then weren't better? Perhaps the only reason we think that games aren't so hot anymore is because we've gotten bored of that certain type of game (And I say we, because I've been saying the same thing for years). The gamers of today, though, have yet to be exposed to that kind of game, so naturally they'll like it more then we do.

 

Good job, Ryuken, you get two chocolate chip cookies!

 

Edit: Jesus. K`Dash, Agozer, and I posted at nearly the same time.

Edited November 30, 2005 by Dooz