James Posted July 15, 2004 Posted July 15, 2004 We will not tolerate any site bashing. We respect EmuFanatics and they have their rights to say their views. I agree with iq_132 and that we can't say how to run their website. The only thing we are focusing about is running ours. I agree with this as well.
Prican25 Posted July 15, 2004 Posted July 15, 2004 well you can now stop worrying as cassini is no longer supported here. untill they get sega's legal team to say its ok to hack the girigiri emu, then things might change but untill then its a dead issue here.
Ex-Cyber Posted July 17, 2004 Posted July 17, 2004 (edited) A few points to note that many seem to forget when discussing Cassini's legality: - GiriGiri was not originally a Sega product. - There has been no credible evidence presented that the original author (Shinya Miyamoto aka MEGADEATH) completely surrendered his copyright to Sega rather than simply licensing the code. - Internationally recognized copyrights do not have to be registered or renewed and last for a minimum of 50 years. This is mandated by the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, of which all but a handful of industrialized nations are signatories. Basically this says that a work copyrighted in Japan by a Japanese citizen is protected in the US by US copyright law, in France by French copyright law, in Germany by German copyright law, etc. - The previous two points combined with mention in the original tech support email of Sega not renewing the "copyright" strongly suggests that Sega had a license for GiriGiri and not the actual copyright. - That is, there's a very good chance that Shinya Miyamoto, not Sega, is the current copyright holder of GiriGiri. Edited July 17, 2004 by Ex-Cyber
Gryph Posted July 17, 2004 Posted July 17, 2004 But in the disassembled "source" of GiriGiri it said Copyright of Sega Corp. 2002.
Agozer Posted July 17, 2004 Posted July 17, 2004 But in the disassembled "source" of GiriGiri it said Copyright of Sega Corp. 2002....and that means that Sega has the copyright, unless they stole GiriGiri from Sinya Miyamoto.
Ex-Cyber Posted July 17, 2004 Posted July 17, 2004 They certainly did not steal it; the old GiriGiri page links to the Cyberdisc page. As for the copyright notice, a notice alone doesn't really have any legal weight, though it does suggest that they actually got him to sign it over...
Agozer Posted July 17, 2004 Posted July 17, 2004 They certainly did not steal it; the old GiriGiri page links to the Cyberdisc page. As for the copyright notice, a notice alone doesn't really have any legal weight, though it does suggest that they actually got him to sign it over...Hey man, I was just joking about the stealing part.
Kengu Posted July 18, 2004 Posted July 18, 2004 The work done on the emulator for Sega (by Sega employees) would be copyrighted by Sega. As Ex-Cyber said, the rights of any development done before that probably belong to MEGADETH.
refraction Posted July 19, 2004 Posted July 19, 2004 ave ive said in this thread http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php...view=getnewpost email striaght from sega to the cassini team states that all copyrights are held by SEGA Japan. just a waiting game now till they get a response from them.
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