freedoom Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 i recently came across a GC emu called dolwin available here: http://dolwin.emulation64.com/ I dont have any GC roms and it wont run retail games, i'm also too lazy to download some. Anybody know if this sucker works?
ME! Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 i guess it depends on what your definition of "works" is. take a look at the bottom of the first screenshot on that page. see how it says FPS:4. thats 4 frames per second. not very fast. so, does it work? id say yes, its possable. does it works like nes emulation works? not by a long shot. i got some good news for you though. you can get a cube for 99 bucks now. so go nuts.
freedoom Posted June 7, 2004 Author Posted June 7, 2004 but, ive already got a GC... why would i spend the money on a second one?
ME! Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 but, ive already got a GC... why would i spend the money on a second one?well, thats a good question. being that most people who are intrested in gamecube emulation, dont actually own one, i assumed you didnt either. on a personal note, i detest gamecube emulation, aswell as ps2, and xbox. infact, its not emulation, its theivery. thats why i advised you to buy one. now, the fact that you DO own one, and are still intrested in its emulation, is not much better. although, thats your prerogative. i for one love nintendo, and dont want to see it one day destroyed, due to such acts. i dont mean to flame you, thats just my reasoning for my previous statement.
ovalprocess Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 (edited) but, ive already got a GC... why would i spend the money on a second one?well, thats a good question. being that most people who are intrested in gamecube emulation, dont actually own one, i assumed you didnt either. on a personal note, i detest gamecube emulation, aswell as ps2, and xbox. infact, its not emulation, its theivery. thats why i advised you to buy one. now, the fact that you DO own one, and are still intrested in its emulation, is not much better. although, thats your prerogative. i for one love nintendo, and dont want to see it one day destroyed, due to such acts. i dont mean to flame you, thats just my reasoning for my previous statement. all emulation is technically stealing. you can't measure theft in degrees. Edited June 9, 2004 by ovalprocess
ME! Posted June 10, 2004 Posted June 10, 2004 but, ive already got a GC... why would i spend the money on a second one?well, thats a good question. being that most people who are intrested in gamecube emulation, dont actually own one, i assumed you didnt either. on a personal note, i detest gamecube emulation, aswell as ps2, and xbox. infact, its not emulation, its theivery. thats why i advised you to buy one. now, the fact that you DO own one, and are still intrested in its emulation, is not much better. although, thats your prerogative. i for one love nintendo, and dont want to see it one day destroyed, due to such acts. i dont mean to flame you, thats just my reasoning for my previous statement. all emulation is technically stealing. you can't measure theft in degrees. im not. emulation was created for preservation purposes. what emulation "has become" during the past several years, is beside the point. here's an example of my logic... emulating old atari games that no one is presently making money off of, meaning the developers. GOOD! emulating newly released gamecube, ps2, xbox, arcade games etc, which developers are still making money from. BAD! what good is owning the rights to a title, if its just gonna sit there on a shelf collecting dust for a decade or two. that's why emulation was created, and that's the only reason why i am involved in it.
extarbags Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Emulation, actually, is using a program to cause one computer system to behave like another. I fail to see how that is stealing. ME: Pirating currently available games is wrong, but what on Earth is wrong with taking an academic interest in gamecube emulation, as a matter of technical curiosity?
Wizard Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 What ME said is right. Emulation is ment as a digital preservation purpose. Same with E-Books.
extarbags Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 What ME said is right. Emulation is ment as a digital preservation purpose. Same with E-Books.Not... actually...
ME! Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 ME: Pirating currently available games is wrong, but what on Earth is wrong with taking an academic interest in gamecube emulation, as a matter of technical curiosity?only because that information can be easily corrupted. show a person how to make dynamite. i truely doubt they will ONLY, then, use it in a constructive sense. for example, industrial mining and what have you. with emulating a system that has been abandoned and/or taken off the market, well, you can then really do no harm. doing the same with a system that is currently being sold and what not, well, you already know my answer to that.
Gryph Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 Gamecube emulation isn't bad in itself, it's part of the pursuit of science. Using it for illegal purposes is bad though.
taratata Posted June 13, 2004 Posted June 13, 2004 ME: Pirating currently available games is wrong, but what on Earth is wrong with taking an academic interest in gamecube emulation, as a matter of technical curiosity?only because that information can be easily corrupted. show a person how to make dynamite. i truely doubt they will ONLY, then, use it in a constructive sense. for example, industrial mining and what have you. with emulating a system that has been abandoned and/or taken off the market, well, you can then really do no harm. doing the same with a system that is currently being sold and what not, well, you already know my answer to that. If I push further your thought: do not teach programming because you could write emus with it. Don't teach iron forging, because you could make knifes and guns with it. Don't teach stone carving, because you could do sharp pieces that could be used as weapons.That's it! You're in the before-stone-age paradize About how emus for recent systems are a steal... if you would have bought the console, maybe. If not, I don't see much change for the company. And seeing how emus for current systems go (4 fps?), anyone who wants to play decently a GC game and who can afford it will buy a GC. Those who can't are screwed anyway. I have a shitload of mp3s and the number of cds I've bought each year has not gone down. Have I stolen anyone? If so, who?
ME! Posted June 16, 2004 Posted June 16, 2004 ME: Pirating currently available games is wrong, but what on Earth is wrong with taking an academic interest in gamecube emulation, as a matter of technical curiosity?only because that information can be easily corrupted. show a person how to make dynamite. i truely doubt they will ONLY, then, use it in a constructive sense. for example, industrial mining and what have you. with emulating a system that has been abandoned and/or taken off the market, well, you can then really do no harm. doing the same with a system that is currently being sold and what not, well, you already know my answer to that. If I push further your thought: do not teach programming because you could write emus with it. Don't teach iron forging, because you could make knifes and guns with it. Don't teach stone carving, because you could do sharp pieces that could be used as weapons.That's it! You're in the before-stone-age paradize About how emus for recent systems are a steal... if you would have bought the console, maybe. If not, I don't see much change for the company. And seeing how emus for current systems go (4 fps?), anyone who wants to play decently a GC game and who can afford it will buy a GC. Those who can't are screwed anyway. I have a shitload of mp3s and the number of cds I've bought each year has not gone down. Have I stolen anyone? If so, who?its weighting the bad with the good. people are only interested in what they believe they can do, and never stop to think if they should, infact, do it. though, people back then were of limited intelligence and didnt know any better. when they came up with stone carving and iron forging, they did it only because they saw it as a means of survival. they only saw the potential for a positive effect, and most likely, had no idea it would have a negative impact on thier lives aswell. im sorry, but, the same can not be said about emulating gamecube games. as of now, its emulation would only have a negative effect, except for the person pirating the game, but, thats just like any other form of theivery. give it ten years or so from now, when the games are not available in retail stores. only then will i see a positive outcome to it all. not all emus run thier games at 4 fps. some games can be run at a good frame rate, at the sametime, maybe having some graphics trouble. others can be run at a not so good frame rate, and at the sametime, having great graphics. then there are the games, which are the exception, that run at a decent fps and with decent graphics. obviously, i dont have first-hand experiance running gamecube emus. i can only say i get my info from screenshots, articles, and from people whom i know, that have seen them run for themselves. the emulation of these present day consoles is getting better and better, very quickly. i give it a year or three before they start doing there job almost perfectly. that may seem like a long enough time for the games to have been out, to justify their emulation, but consider this. all next-gen consoles will be backwards compatable with their present day counterparts. it is then safe to assume, that most, if not all, games that are out now, will still be available to purchase then. it would be silly for them not to be. furthermore, we are not only speaking of gamecube emulation, but, xbox, ps2 and newly released arcade games aswell. oh, and about the amount of cds you buy, versus the amount of mp3s you download... everyone and thier mother that downloads mp3s to dvd rips claims that. i dont believe it for a second.
ovalprocess Posted June 18, 2004 Posted June 18, 2004 but, ive already got a GC... why would i spend the money on a second one?well, thats a good question. being that most people who are intrested in gamecube emulation, dont actually own one, i assumed you didnt either. on a personal note, i detest gamecube emulation, aswell as ps2, and xbox. infact, its not emulation, its theivery. thats why i advised you to buy one. now, the fact that you DO own one, and are still intrested in its emulation, is not much better. although, thats your prerogative. i for one love nintendo, and dont want to see it one day destroyed, due to such acts. i dont mean to flame you, thats just my reasoning for my previous statement. all emulation is technically stealing. you can't measure theft in degrees. im not. emulation was created for preservation purposes. what emulation "has become" during the past several years, is beside the point. here's an example of my logic... emulating old atari games that no one is presently making money off of, meaning the developers. GOOD! emulating newly released gamecube, ps2, xbox, arcade games etc, which developers are still making money from. BAD! what good is owning the rights to a title, if its just gonna sit there on a shelf collecting dust for a decade or two. that's why emulation was created, and that's the only reason why i am involved in it. youre not thinking the same way that a corporation thinks. corporations get the laws made, and when you get right down to it, thats where our "right and wrong" comes from. environmentalists want to preserve the earth so that future generations can enjoy it, yet the govt and corporations want to rape the land for everything its worth. when the hippies chain themselves to trees in the path of the bulldozers, who's going to get arrested? the people with nothing but everyones best interest in mind, or the people with the power and the cash? even i myself wear an eyepatch and a pegleg, but i dont try to convince myself that what im doing is "right".
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