MUGEN?

[-VIOLENCE-]

thanks alot for the website i read it and it's quite useful.. but i'm still confused lol

 

i don't understand this part here

 

"1P A increases the object's action.

1P B decreases the object's action.

1P C changes character in object.

1P D changes character in object.

Object inherits 1st players palette. That's why we've chosen 1st player as our rippable character.

 

 

Now, change the character in the Debug Object with 1P C/D."

 

I followed the directions and i do see some text on the screen and a person in the middle of the two fighters.

 

 

does it have to be this small? can i make the screen bigger??

 

 

I also did these steps... "go to VIDEO, DISABLE, DISABLE 8x8 sprites (Alt+1)

Also set the background color to pink in VIDEO, SET BACKGROUND COLOR, PINK."

 

but i don't understand this part here...

 

"Go to TOOLS, select SHOTSFACTORY and uncheck all items except the corresponding to the debug object."

 

 

 

I unchecked them all and the entire screen was pink lol...

 

which ones should i remove??

 

 

I don't have most of the programs like the PCXor whatever it's called and that huge list, do i really need those??

 

and thanks alot!

Edited December 1, 2003 by -VIOLENCE-

[alexis]

i think i finally downloaded the right program..

 

when you click on mugen icon does the screen go black and into this small little box that says "M.U.G.E.N." and clouds are moving, it looks kind of like a nintendo game or somthing. There are menus like, arcade, vs, team, etc. But on the top of the screen it says the period has expired... 

 

-.-; is that the correct mugens?

about the period has expired don´t worry

 

about the shots factory you have to uncheck htings so that the characters is the only one remaining, i have read some tutorials about that, but they are in spanish anyway in a post i made about mugen links there is a site with lots of mugen links in all languages and has links to many sites about ripping and stuff, check them out

[The TeamPlayer]

"1P A increases the object's action.

1P B decreases the object's action.

1P C changes character in object.

1P D changes character in object.

Object inherits 1st players palette. That's why we've chosen 1st player as our rippable character.

 

 

Now, change the character in the Debug Object with 1P C/D."

These are the SNK buttons. Button ABC and D.

Pushing buttons A or B toggle through the different animations.

Pushing buttons C or D changes what character is in the center of the screen.

 

So if you want to rip Iori you need to pick him as player 1. Use the C or D button to toggle through the different debug characters until you get to Iori. Since you picked Iori his palette will be correct and not messed up.

 

Remember that you can't use the ABCD buttons to toggle the debug character unless you hold the select button.

 

does it have to be this small? can i make the screen bigger??

Yeah you can make it full screen.

 

Go to TOOLS, select SHOTSFACTORY and uncheck all items except the corresponding to the debug object."

 

 

 

 

I unchecked them all and the entire screen was pink lol...

 

which ones should i remove??

You'll just have to use trial and error. You can select Blink Selected to see what you will remove before you remove it. Also whenever you frame advance sometimes you will lose pieces of the sprites. They move around during animation so you will have to check and uncheck boxes quite a bit in some instances.

 

You don't have to have PCXclean it's just a quick way to apply a palette to all sprites. I do have the program if you want it though. And Paintshop is a necessity.

[-VIOLENCE-]

Ohhh, thank you very much for your help

sorry if i'm starting to annoy you

 

 

 

You SAID -

"So if you want to rip Iori you need to pick him as player 1. Use the C or D button to toggle through the different debug characters until you get to Iori. Since you picked Iori his palette will be correct and not messed up."

 

 

Soo, i pick Iori As player one and then keep on pressing those buttons until the character in the middle becomes Iori right? then like the website says, pause the game and press control+p to take screen shots one by one. that is correct ne?

[alexis]

since we are talking about ripping, i wasa browsing some rom hacking sites and i found that there are tools for editing rom gfx and stuff so i was wondering, if you take it directly from the rom instead of taking snapshots?

[The TeamPlayer]

You just need to frame advance and snap. Frame advance and snap. Repeat until you get a cajillian sprites ripped.

And you are not annoying me. Alexis I only use the shots factory with roms so I don't know about those rom graphics altering programs.

 

I know you can alter some PS1 isos so that the Backgrounds are disabled.

 

Violence to save you trouble later don't forget to count the # of ticks per frame on an animation while cycling through the different animations. Everytime you push frame advance is a tick. I made that mistake the 1st time I ever ripped. And basically had to do it all again.

[alexis]

mmmmm rom hacking doesn´t seem viable, almost all roms are compressed so you can´t see the correctly with a tile editor, well maybe if someone knows about rom hacking they could give me a clue

[-VIOLENCE-]

okay, how exactly do i know if i am ripping correctly?

 

so if i take screen shot frame by frame the picture of Iori will be in my screen shot folder with a pinky background ne?

 

Also, is it possble to use paint shop Pro version 8?

On the website i cannot find a version 7 -.-;

 

Edited December 1, 2003 by -VIOLENCE-

[The TeamPlayer]

okay, how exactly do i know if i am ripping correctly?.

If your getting Iori ripped with nothing in the way to make it tougher to cut him out and if it is making an animation then you are obviously doing right

so if i take screen shot frame by frame the picture of Iori will be in my screen shot folder with a pinky background ne?

Correct. All the shots you take should be in the screenshots folder in png format.

Any version of Paintshop will do. When the faq was made it was before version 8 came out.

Edited December 2, 2003 by The TeamPlayer

[-VIOLENCE-]

kay, ummm i think i'm on the right track here...

 

 

 

this is how my screen look like when i disabled some neo geo switches...

and for some reason KEN is always punching.. *lookie! it's IORI... and he is all discoloured... -.-;;*lol anyways is it supposed to look like this when i take screens?

 

here are some screen shots that i took

 

 

 

 

 

okay lol.. i think i get it... ummm like you take screen shots with the pink background frame by frame like the website says

and then you take those pictures and then put it inside the paintshop pro and

put them together with the gif animator??

 

THANKS A LOT TEAM PLAYER!!

Edited December 2, 2003 by -VIOLENCE-

[The TeamPlayer]

this is how my screen look like when i disabled some neo geo switches...

and for some reason KEN is always punching.. lol anyways is it supposed to look like this when i take screens?

Ken is punching because you pushed the A button:P You need to disable player 1 and player 2 if you are going to use the gif trick to acquire the full palette. Because you only want Iori's colors. Mugen chars are limited to 256 colors.

*lookie! it's IORI... and he is all discoloured... -.-;;*

Iori is the wrong color because you have not picked Iori as player 1. You picked Ken. You need to pick Iori as player 1 so that the debug object has the correct colors.

Looks like you get to start over again Don't worry everybody messes up ALOT! You'll make many rookie mistakes while learning and have to start over again in many areas. But that will give you experience and make you a better creator. After about a month of this you'll start seeing why some creators get so ticked for there stuff to be stolen from them and someone get credit for anothers hard work.

and then you take those pictures and then put it inside the paintshop pro and

put them together with the gif animator??

You'll only want to use the gif animator trick after you have ripped all the sprites including all sparks and fire effects. The animation trick is to acquire all the colors from each frame. That's why you don't want any extra characters or any other sprites on the screen besides Iori.

[-VIOLENCE-]

I finally Took Some screen shots of some characters!!

 

Thank you team player^^

 

I went to some other website and they tell you how to crop the pictures...

and well the directions are not correct when i try to crop the picture it gets really screwy >, < I followed all the directions and still doesn't work...

 

Help!!

 

The website says...

1. First get the image you want to crop

2. draw a box around the image using the selection tools

3. then, as you box your picture look at the bottom screen to find the numbers

 

 

 

See how it says 95 x 126? the website said to remember that number...

 

4. After that, click on IMAGE then to Canvas Size, and type the numbers into the thingy there...

 

 

and then when i press enter...

 

 

it becomes like this... >, <

 

I don't understand why it does that...

 

here is the webpage where i got the information from, Maybe you'll understand what I did wrong,

 

Clicky Here

 

 

- Thank you!!!

[The TeamPlayer]

Don't worry about cropping it yourself. Get Zcharcad or MEE. They have crop features.

 

I haven't tried it yet but I was told if you put all the sprites in elecbyte's sprite maker program and crop them they will all maintian there correct axis. (One of the benefits of ripping from the debug is you can get the correct axis from each rip)

[-VIOLENCE-]

ohhh okay... Soo since my picture doesn't crop well that means i didn't rip them correctly?

 

and i searched for MEE i cannot find it

 

but the Zcharcad Software i found one spanish website about it, is this some secret program for M.U.G.E.N.? Any clue where to find these programs?

 

-Thank You!

[The TeamPlayer]

MEE

ZCharCad

ohhh okay... Soo since my picture doesn't crop well that means i didn't rip them correctly?

Nah it just meant I was too lazy to tell you what you did wrong in cropping them yourself

Besides the method you chose is much slower than using the MEE or ZCharcad programs.

but the Zcharcad Software i found one spanish website about it, is this some secret program for M.U.G.E.N.? Any clue where to find these programs?

No it's just a hard to find mugen creating program. It's the one I use the most but many other people use MEE more. They are the best two without a doubt.