ressurectionx Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 Not looking for a fight with you Fuman lol. I only changed real quick when I saw you because you're the one that got mad at me for posting about source in the other threads and you don't want me doing that anymore. Really, just a harmless ribbing is all it was. I've edited the very first post giving my apologies to HF, as he wasn't the inteneded recipient of the ribbing and I've also PM'd him, imploring his forgiveness for my careless and absent minded mistake. Now...... I will take that bit about your panties being in a bunch out of the title if you leave this thread peacefully and don't derail mine and BP's conversation. I will not post things you don't like in your thread, and you will not post things in my thread. Agreed?
Robert Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 I see Robert is in here, so I must have been reported again. Here's hoping he doesn't ban me again because this conversation is civil and headway seems to have been made. Nobody has reported you... yet. You'll know if or when they do.
ressurectionx Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 BP - Hoping you could clarify the "just build it from dats" statement for me. I'm really looking forward to being able to add a patch to your next release, but I know from experience that you won't accept work that isn't up to your exact specifications. I won't start work on this until I know from you exactly what you need me to do, cause I've already wasted too many weekends on this, especially now that you fixed the 2player alternating and I'm abandoning my build. Robert - Cool man.... Fumanchu - I'll take your silence as we have an understanding. As an act of good faith, I have removed the offending dialogue. Regards,~Rx
BritneysPAIRS Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 its allways been there and there tools to change these files on PC it will be out this week by looks
ressurectionx Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 Hehe.... I think we're having a bit of a communication breakdown or cross posting going on. I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass here, just want to make things absolutely crystal before I proceed with any work after your new build comes out. 1) "just build it from dats" - Though I have a general idea what you mean here, I don't want to be mistaken and do a bunch of stuff the wrong way. What exactly do you mean? 2) What are the names of the PC tools to alter keymapping or do the other changes? All I need are the names. I can say with 99% confidence that if it's on the net, I can find it. I can likely figure out how to use it on my own, but I hope you don't mind if I get stumped on something and I can ask you a question or two at that point.
BritneysPAIRS Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) just change them in the game then you can test them as you go... its easiest for you. Just grab a full rom set.... then run it though CLRMAME or Romcenter to change it into the correct files... No offense but this is about level 1 out 10 stuff RX and you wish to change the world. Dats is the basis to rebuild all your roms to the current version and you should learn this first. Anyone can help you here id say the programs pretty much speak for themselves. Im gone from this thread it just a waste of time. Anyone in 10mins can create full rom set with the dats and this thread is alot of trash talk as usual. I have unlocked things I cant offer help at such a low level please ask around this is all easy stuff and Mameworld can help you with ease. I have actually coding to do sorry. If you cant work out how to add games(properly tested) and keymap from here well i cant help you, others might. Sorry RX but I have other fish to fry... its not intended to offend like it will to me its just the facts PS if you ever mention names the way you do again you will recieve absolutly no help from me and I will go out of my way to stop you on new build... that is a promise so no MBP or whatever it is or refrence to HF or fum if it happpens anywhere and I see it I will keep my word on this. This is your final warning if you want stuff in dont bite the hand that feeds you, then complain about the bite All those guys would find dats to be the basics as well RX although you might think its us being hard but it is the basics and for you to tell us whats what with questions like that makes me wonder about your knoweldge even more and also why you shouldnt release a build publically, but hey its up to you my only advice is for you to walk before you try and run it will happen just not in 5mins like you want it to. Right im out of this thread good luck everyone peeeeeaaaaaaaaccccccceeeeeeeee Edited May 11, 2008 by BritneysPAIRS
ressurectionx Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 That's what I thought you meant by dats, but I wanted to clarify. I know a lot about them as I've used them quite extensively since I've set up my XBox, and even years before when I was running emulators on the PC. Yeah.... they're level 1 of 10. Probably below that actually. I wasn't asking how to run roms through a dat, I was asking you to clarify a poorly worded sentence again. Thank you for posting a 50 line response about it though. I think.... I get..... the point. As far as HF, if he has a problem with me calling him that I'll stop. That is between him and I. Are you saying that you don't want me to call you BP anymore? Just let me know. For the record, I have no problem with you calling me Rx.
BritneysPAIRS Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) BP is fine its the other things $BPM or whatever it is. People here generally want to help even if you think they dont want to. They want to see people work together for a greater good. Just needs to be controlled and time needs to be taken to progress things.... and the right people need to work on the right stuff. Submit any driver changes you want for control changes eg non keymap stuff like analog sensitvities and reasons why ill add them if they make sense. Also submit any keymap stuff and reason why if they make sense ill add them. If not you are free to release your own stuff its all good I just wont put my name to it. Dont expect it to all go in but if theres not a good reason why it shouldnt go in, it will go in and save me time. Its normally only about 10 percent of your stuff I had issues with and if they were readdressed it would probably be less than 5 percent. Edited May 11, 2008 by BritneysPAIRS
ressurectionx Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) Fair enough BP.... How would you like the keymap and other stuff presented? Should I post the relevant code in here with the descriptions on why it should be changed? Or some other way? To whom it may concern... Dammit I'm dead again. Who killed me this time? BTW... I don't recommend using the pimp slap. As funny as that crap is, it's only good for about 1-2 damage. Just like a Wop to bring a pimp slap to a chainsaw fight.... Edited May 11, 2008 by ressurectionx
dr99 Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 rx, why are you not able to change the keymaps in game? any game i have tried i was able to change the keys to the way i wanted them by going into the ingame menu. maybe i am missing something here.
ressurectionx Posted May 11, 2008 Author Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) rx, why are you not able to change the keymaps in game? any game i have tried i was able to change the keys to the way i wanted them by going into the ingame menu. maybe i am missing something here. Might be true dr99.... I never once used the UI options. Somebody back in the day said that it might not work on one game but might change all of them and even though I've learned a ton since then, I never really thogut about it again. Thing was, I started thinking that I wanted to make fixes that everyone would benefit from and in my mind the only place to do that was the source. Turns out that I think I did a ton more work than I needed, but a lot of it is done on my discontinued build. Honestly, it's killing me to let my source go, but because I don't know the ways to make the other things that BP has made possible without years of learning C++ that I've just recently decided that I definately don't want to devote so I don't really have a choice. I really like all that I've done, but it just can't be added for my own build at this point unless I had the actual source since 100% of my changes are in the source code. I renamed every single rom so US games were perfect and Japan/Europe/World type roms had "(Japan/Europe/World)" attached to their names if people wanted to switch between "US Mode" and "Parent Mode" since some people voiced concerns that they might want the parent in, instead of the US rom like I wanted it. I also cleaned up all of the Years and Manufacturer names perfectly so they looked great in "Sort by Manufactuer" and "Sort by Year" mode. I was going to fix a few games which had the wrong number of players for the sort by player mode, but I hadn't figured out how to do that yet, or even really gotten to it is probably more accurate. I made changes to games that I wanted on a lot of the old drivers like Pac-Man and Moon Patrol that automatically gave me the max amount of lives without having to go into UI options to do it, also the best options for extra lives (5 lives for Pac-Man woot!)..... plus with all the cocktail flipping changes I was making I also made every game that benefited from them automatically start in cocktail mode (which didn't flip the screen, but it did switch control for the second player to the second joystick). Games like Bagman, I even had to change the native rotate code to flip the screen because both players were upside down after making the flip change effecting it.... Even thought I'm letting it go, it still was an awesome experience being able to manipulate as much as I had. I learned a ton and even though I'm letting it go there was a ton of little victories along the way that really felt good after droughts of nothing excellent coming for a long time. It was an awesome idea, I think, to fix the 2 player control flip, since before when you had to press start on the 2nd player controller and then you had to throw the controller back and forth between lives on games like Pyros (Wardner), Black Tiger, Ghouls 'n Ghosts, Strider, Pac-Man, Bagman, Galaga, Centipede, Moon Patrol, etc. because both players were controlled on the first controller.* Now, if the fix BP put in works without any bugs and he keeps it in, all of these games will switch control perfectly from 1st player to 2nd player just like if you were playing XPorts NES emulator. Even though I put all that work into it, I'll gladly give it all up for BP's new fixes that I can't add, particularly if I can make an awesome patch that will add all the games he doesn't want with all the keymapping fixed on them. Glad I could suggest some good things to put in and I hope to be able to contribute more to the project now that I've learned a little. Regards,~Rx * My brother hated flipping the controller. I didn't like it either, but it never bothered me much, but I thought that other people playing it two players might have people they know that thought it was lame. That's when I came up with the disabling screenflip idea to get it to work since cocktail did flip control to the 2nd player. Turns out it's just five minute of code, but since I don't know crap, it took me over a month to get 300 of them working. Any game like Galaga with bullets both ways I was never able to figure out. Other ones like Pyros I started to figure out, but I was doing major hacking on the video driver for that game and (i think) tigerheli to get it to work right. At one point I had the sprites inside out, and the graphics 80 percent off the screen. But hey... it was finally right side up for both players...lol. It's crazy how much you can screw up games when you unlock the power of the debug box. Edited May 11, 2008 by ressurectionx
Robert Posted May 11, 2008 Posted May 11, 2008 To whom it may concern... Dammit I'm dead again. Who killed me this time? BTW... I don't recommend using the pimp slap. As funny as that crap is, it's only good for about 1-2 damage. Just like a Wop to bring a pimp slap to a chainsaw fight....Even though it's completely off topic... You have been dead since you were banned. I have healed you. The pimp slap takes off about the same as the level you're on.You can take off 1, I can take off over 1800. At your level, you should use maximum power at all times.
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