DVD Race has #3!

[Wizard]

HVD

 

New format by a group of companies that is planning to make it content with Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Capacities of 200, 300 GB and 1 Terabyte are currently in planning.

 

Using a 3D development scheme(you know, the whole Hologram deal), data will be physically embedded onto the disc other then all current formats, which burn data onto the thingy on the outside of the disc.

 

This format might be the winner for ecomonical(you know, cheap) uses over HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.

 

On the side note, it looks really, really, really shiny / shiny!

[Bluestinger X]

bluray has just become a floppy disk... in proportion to that thing.

[NeoMaster]

Wow, things are just getting bigger and bigger. Imagine a game that would utilize the whole terabyte disc...now that's bang for your buck.

[Wizard]

Imagine it. Imagine that PCs that streamed games right off the disc insted of installing it. All it would do is promote a CDkey, then it would save on your reg and it would auth from there. I really thing that would be possible once the new formats are out since we've already reached our limit on how fast optical discs can be read on a drive.

[Gryph]

Now studios have to actually support it. It's going to suck to have to get a Blu-ray and HDVD player. Hopefully a company will make one that reads both...

[Bluestinger X]

it is a little late.. i mean seems like most companys have already gone for bluray

[Ryuken]

would we need hard drive any more??

[Daeval]

To the best of my knowledge, we don't have optical drives that match the speeds (or silence) of things like a good SATA Hard Drive, at least in terms of initial seek times and such. So, using an optical drive for ALL the data storage would be kinda lame. It's getting pretty close for anything that doesn't require that kind of pick-up time though. It will be an interesting day when your PC hard drive assumes the role of world's largest memory card, if that. We'll have gone full circle.

 

Or for that matter, when these disks reach 300GB or TB sizes, will it be cheaper to make a hard drive to match, or just specially mount one of these disks inside a dedicated internal re-writer, to simulate a hard drive?

Edited February 5, 2005 by Daeval

[Bluestinger X]

ah i doubt the rewrite time is very fast..

[Shibathedog]

1TB? Try pirating that!

 

HVD - The storage that made cable modems useless and dialup-ers want to cry.....more....

[Wizard]

There are tons of selling points for each product along with some let downs. I'm just doing this from the top of my head, please correct some areas if they are inacurrate.

 

Blu-Ray:

Good:

HDTV playback

Great recording medium for DVRs

Amazing compression and decoding

Wonderful capacity (like 50 right?)

Rewritable

 

Bad:

Need a new drive to play it on

Cost

Sony

 

HD-DVD:

Good;

HDTV Playback

HD-DVD Systems are forward compatible with some players, but will play like a normal dvd on older systems

Also good for DVR

Decent amount of capacity (30GB)

Cheap, setting to replace DVD

 

Bad:

Forward compaiblity issues

Less capacity then BR

Not rewritable by default

 

HVD:

Good:

Uncompressed HD videos.

Wonderful decoding process (because it's RAW, it's faster and by far the best with the capacity, it's practically perfect for raw data and not compressed)

Capacity (100 GB read only, 200, 300 GB and 1TB writeable)

Price*

Really Shiny + really trippy lasers

 

Bad:

needs new drive

price**

Not re-rewritable

Lasers can make you blind

 

*Cheap to make

**Players and drives are somewhat expensive

[Ghosty]

Looks Like Its best To Stick To DVD Originals.

[Bluestinger X]

Looks Like Its best To Stick To DVD Originals.

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that wont happens since normal dvds cant hold enough data for high def.. Which is what everyone wants. So far people are buying high def tvs and they can watch hi def channels but they cant watch movies that way. So they need a new disc that can hold the data and since normal dvds only hold around 9 gig at the most dvd will soon die.

 

To tell u the truth i was kinda hoping the cd , dvd generation would die althogether.. How long does a Normal cd/dvd last if used regulary... not very damn long. The things are just to sesitive. Hell i had a dvd player not to long ago went haywire and wouldnt give me my disk back. When i finaly got it open the dvd player had burned a hole through the disk. Ive actully had a few cd players as do that as well. Lets find a new media type.

Edited February 6, 2005 by Bluestinger X

[Dooz]

Hell i had a dvd player not to long ago went haywire and wouldnt give me my disk back. When i finaly got it open the dvd player had burned a hole through the disk. Ive actully had a few cd players as do that as well. Lets find a new media type.

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That's why you don't light your DVD player on fire.

[Daeval]

Hell i had a dvd player not to long ago went haywire and wouldnt give me my disk back. When i finaly got it open the dvd player had burned a hole through the disk. Ive actully had a few cd players as do that as well. Lets find a new media type.

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That's why you don't light your DVD player on fire.

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Seriously, that's like.. not normal usage conditions. Maybe buy your next CD/DVD player somewhere other than the swap meet?

 

The very first CD I ever owned (Green Day - Dookie, which is now 10 years old) still works just fine. In fact, I think I only had one CD ever go bad on me, and that's because I lent it to a friend who, as far as I can tell, used it to test his shaving razors. A quick run through a DVD-Doctor and even it works good as new.

 

The only CD/DVD player that's ever screwed up on me is the one in my car, which is now 11 years old, and which took a blow from a would-be theif that was hard enough to crack a good portion of my front console. It still works, it just skips once in a while and won't read CDs by the band Live for some reason.

 

I don't understand how people can screw these things up.

Edited February 6, 2005 by Daeval