It's what I refer to when a company makes a game and instead of actually making a good game they make the graphics shiny and fool the Idiot Crowd into thinking that those are the most amazing graphics in the world. I blame the unsuccessfulness of Nintendo on PS2 fans. The reason being is because as the Gamecube just started launching, I remember walking into Gamestop or EB Games and hearing these morons standing at the Gamecube section and blasting each and every game as being kiddy. Remember Resident Evil? That too was claimed to be kiddy. To my point, the Idiot Crowd (Who can't decide a damn thing for themselves.) listens to these PS2 fanboys and decide to join in the blasting and refusal to buy Nintendo products. I give you, PS2 fanboys, the middle finger salute (In no way am I bashing the PS2, just the fans.). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very good points, and I remember seeing the "Idiot Crowd" over here as well. Now, for the record, I am a PS2 fan, not a fanboy. I acknowledge the good points in the GC and it's games, and the games are far from being kiddy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> While GC's games are far from being kiddy, Nintendo made great marketing efforts to make the GC look like the "best console for kids". That's also part of what fooled the "Idiot crowd" into thinking the GC's games are kiddy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think it has a lot to do with the Mario factor. The fact that Nintendo is the only company that owns him (unlike Sonic who has been shared between Sega and Nintendo) means that a lot of people see Nintendo and think Mario, and label the whole system kiddy. A great injustice to this awesome system. And for the record, I don't know what everyone's problem is with the controller. I think it's great and I have bigger hands than most people. Buttons aren't awkward at all, I find them intuitive, easy to get the hang of. Its one weakness is possibly the Z-button, and it's not used much anyway.