The "sorta" is precisely the problem. If you really want to try, you can begin with a library like SDL. But the real problem is that if you were really serious about that you would find the info yourself, and already be at work. And Visual Basic isn't gonna do you any good. Learn all you can from your lessons and from other people, but you'll always have to find the most part of the info yourself. Lessons are made to get you started, to show you important points and to make you avoid the most common mistakes, but that's all. Gryph, that's a nice quote