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King of Fighters 2003 News II

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There are some rules in this thread and you will be Warned (auto ban, suspension of posts, account suspension, etc.) if you don't follow them.

1) This thread is only for King of Fighters 2003 News! Nothing else, only news on the dump. If you fail to due to so, you will be warned or banned automatically.

2) No calling people n00bs, newbies, etc. You know what I mean. If someone gives out false info, say to them nice that their info is incorrect and give proven facts as well.

3) No flaming, this became a problem with Sharim's fake kof2003 ftp thread. We were able to conclude it sincerely like I did (learn from the boss ) without any flaming. If there is any flaming at all, everyone who is affiliated with it will be Warned.

4) Keep all your info verified. Don't post OBVIOUSLY fake junk. If you do, you may even be banned or warned. Were now taking that seriously and as a offence to the rest of the people on the forum.

5) No praising of other sites or deliberately advertising another site. You will be automatically warned or banned!

5) Keep the information clean and good. Enjoy..once again!

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this is from the neogames homepage (i hope this is not true )

http://www.neogamez.net/ is in spanish


After a brief time without an update because I was attending a forum 0_o the only other news I have is the fact that there will be no rom of kof 2003, for the simple fact that metal slug 5 was released so fast SNK lost money, the point is I believe in order to repay for what was lost with metal slug 5 there will be no kof 2003 rom according to team EFMP which are the ones that were in charge of dumping it, so too bad we all have to share in the blame with those that STOLE the rom that's all

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this is from the neogames homepage  (i hope this is not true )

http://www.neogamez.net/  is in spanish 


After a brief time without an update because I was attending a forum 0_o the only other news I have is the fact that there will be no rom of kof 2003, for the simple fact that metal slug 5 was released so fast SNK lost money, the point is I believe in order to repay for what was lost with metal slug 5 there will be no kof 2003 rom according to team EFMP which are the ones that were in charge of dumping it, so too bad we all have to share in the blame with those that STOLE the rom that's all

See that's very weird. Because they were like the first posting the screens of the game. I'm guessing that this game has become all lies or has it? So far we have heard Billy Jr. releasing the rom, we have gotten screenshots from various other sites. However they are all the same. And they all seem to be coming from one source. Nothing has really become new. The only thing I know so far is that things are looking very weird.

I did some research and found some of the shots that were posted suppositely from snapshots of emulators on another site called.. SNKNEOGEOUSA.com..a registered trademark site and owned by SNK. The snapshots..see for yourself, they look exactly the same as the supposite shots from emulators.

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The rest can be found (which weirdly, not all of them were added..snapshots)..

http://www.snkneogeo...creenshots.html

Interesting eh?

Also it seems that they were the first to release the video of the start of the game and such as well.. http://www.snkneogeo...om/medial3.html (however the vid link is now dead) From what I see, it seems that somewhere in the middle, we have all been fooled to believe all the sources are from emulators, but really from SNK itself.

PS: Keep your replies more than 2 sentences and not a bunch of 2 word answers. Also add back with more news and don't just give a comment or your post will be deleted. As you can see this thread is called KOF 2003 NEWS.

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I'm almost positive that's SNK's website, i saw the URL in a magazine...

Maybe SNK is the source of all of this hype...

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I'm almost positive that's SNK's website, i saw the URL in a magazine...

Maybe SNK is the source of all of this hype...

It's very possible. Infact in my honest opinion, I think they released all of the screenshots and not just the ones on their site. This would be a perfect way of delaying real dumpers from dumping the game. Why would a dumper waste all his money while he thinks and awaits for the games release if everyone says it's already dumped? Either some very smart people are working for SNK or this is just getting too weird.

Also other news.. KOF 2003 has only been release to selected places. Meaning it's basically for beta use right now till it's fully released. It's been released in the countries around Mexico and even in California and in some places in Europe, Japan, and China. The game people is not completely public even yet. The next KOF game is going to be 3D and for PS2, there has been no word on a KOF 2004 from what I have read.

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My arcade in texas has it... (Animation town)

I think that snk has released a limited number of carts. It's actually slowing down people emulating it as it seems :P

For all we know billy jr. could be snk :\

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My arcade in texas has it... (Animation town)

I think that snk has released a limited number of carts.  It's actually slowing down people emulating it as it seems  :P

For all we know billy jr. could be snk :\

Billy Jr. did release screenshots as well on his site and it still looked as the same source as SNKNEOGEOUSA.com

However from what I have heard is that he was actually previously sued by SNK for dumping games. If you remember for the Rage of The Dragons release, Billy Jr. was teasing everyone that he might release the rom. But in the long run he said he could not because SNK has already sued him and he could get in serious trouble if he did. He even, I think (not sure) proposed if someone would pay him 3-$5,000 he release it. So the guy isn't exactly trustable at all.

Billy Jr's website is.. http://billyjr.com, however it's in chinese. :D

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Well what do you know.. right after I posted the BillyJr.com link and clicked on it, he himself posted another link to another site called Epic-Center with brand new news on the rom.

Here is the new information..

The EFMP team, the only dumpers who actually buy the carts and dump the roms are not going to release the rom because someone suppositely stole it, it could be Playmore or anyone (like another Half Life job). They also say that Metal Slug 5 was stolen as well, that's why people had such a hard time getting it to work with other emulators besides Kawaks. So I guess this ends our stipulations and the information seems very legit and the person who posted it on Epic-Center is also a EFMP member and part of the Support Team of Epic-Center. With all the rom releasing and pirating, the EFMP team still has sympathy to release the game, but not now.

Here is also the exact post from the user and translated in English from Spanish:

The group of previous seen EFMP dumpers which tremendously were filtered and whereas much people have neither word nor becomes aware since the damage of to have removed ms5 has been for us a embarassment.

We have made the decision from previously not removing kof2003 for the reasons saying, the dump and the emulation are a very serious thing and not know the damage that has been done filtering ms5.

Like that feeling it much we will not remove kof2003 nor a single ROM, I rob ms5 blatantly to us and we know the people who were, this ROM was thought about removing it after a year not 3 months.This is one embarrasment, a company as snk can return to sink if it removed kof2003, pensadlo a little and sabreis of which I speak.

Kindly a member of the EFMP.


Lastly he posted something from the leader of EFMP..

an edit of the coordinardor of the team has just it me to send:

The ms5 and the ssv themselves dumpearon of original cartridges of mvs since we possess the original one, me not certain comments have pleased that if the svc was a ducks that if such, me gustaria that algun gave they tried uds dumpear a bootleg, because they were going to see it dificil that is and that of money that costs.

Ademas that dumpear is simple, but it but dificil consists of ordering the p, the c, to codify the v, the m1 etc.. many of you simply are limited to play and think that this is done simple, but the truth is that it is not asi, The because the m1 are used to giving failures, therefore because the algorithm that deciphers them even is not perfect and therefore neither the own pirated bootlegThey manage to decipher them well. Me they be not pijoteros because without the dumpeadores even many not tendrian the svc.

Then another thing of the bootleg new come with special protections very dificiles to break since all two memories do it ram and some chips alters very pretty.

Asi that the people that criticizes the work of other me gustaria that were put in its place and then verian that is not gold everything that shines, detras of each relase there are piles of people working in breaking said protections.

We are not the elite, neither tonterias of those, we are a specialists persons group in diverse branches that entertain dumpeando and that do not we gain neither a hard one, I have seen people saying that other they removed it, and the truth is that it is very possible, but I believe that the people deberia to be a little but considered since our group has contributed al world of the emulacion something, weWe love snk, and therefore we do not desire jamas doing it damage and we want that they gain the maximo money, because they deserve it., The ssv was a gift of Christmas, but the ms5 was a total robbery, does nobody it be born learning and in each relase have tried that there be the minimos possible failures.

When saldra the kof2003 is an incognita, but what is insurance it is that the EFMP team although have it it does not it be going to remove jamas.

That they think the persons that trust in they passing them the mslug5 so that you they could play it in all the emuladores, (because that the cause by the one went that itself filter) by giving it to him wrong persons. That is to say we teniamos the intencion to free it inside 1 year and to free it for mame. neoragex, finalburn. etc... and just as authorization the rom was impossible, therefore I am trusted it to certain people, and some of them I am dedicated to pass it to him to everyone by its own personal interests.

Of there is ours new position, I expect that they understand it and they understand the decision, the emulacion is another thing that to have roms present, the emulacion is a great deal but, we are a team, and this team in my we express a tremendous sadness al to see that there is people that by personal interests remove a rom too much recent causing losing credibility in the persons that they have helped us.

EFMP

Thanks to that people we will not remove the kof2003. But that they do not suffer the people that other persons seeking fame and demas they removed it.



Credits: BillyJr.com & Epic-Center for the link to the information regarding the dump of the rom.

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explain?

from what I could read, no dump of kof2003?

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explain?

from what I could read, no dump of kof2003?

Basically the real dumpers are not going to release the rom due to the fact someone has suppositely stolen the rom from them. So basically there not going to release it and they weren't even going too until a little later because they want SNK to make money. As James said, Metal Slug 5 made very little money because it was released too early. The real case was that it was really leaked early and stolen by the real dumpers who were waiting till SNK made some real money off of the game. That's why it was so screwed up at first. If you want the game early, wait for the stolen bootleg if the people who leaked it are going to ever release it themselves.

I also have found a image of KOF 2003 on a emulator, probabally the stolen version and not released...

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The real dumpers though still have sympathy for the rom and will release it, but no way at this time. Maybe in a couple of months or so. :P

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Though I don't think my own response to this would be quite so scatalogical, Prince Cronos does have a point...

I also find it hard to beleive that the rom was "stolen". More than likely it was shared with close friends who then shared it with close friends who then...

You get the picture.

As far as Playmore - SNK making money goes, I don't see emulation cutting radically into their profits here in Asia. Every rathole arcade and comic shop that has space for a game cabinet or two has all of the 2002 - 2003 Neo Geo releases available and they all get very regular play from what I've seen here in Osaka. That being said, however, if Playmore - SNK is losing money then they only have themselves to blame. They are continuing to put out major releases on a tremendously dated system that has been cracked for years. The move to Naomi or Atomis wave is about 2-3 years overdue. And as much as I love the old MVS format, I do hope that KoF 2003 is real and that it serves as the last nail in the coffin of this hardware having any more major titles produced for it.

Edited by capt. sensible, 11 January 2004 - 08:50 AM.





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